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re: The Decline Started Before O
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:09 am to Goldrush25
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:09 am to Goldrush25
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At least recruiting was better with the last guy.
Thanks for at least not saying that sorry mf's name . I can also tell you I would rather have Tinkerbell as coach than GooOleLess. As far as I'm concerned the outcome on O is still open to debate. I just am ashamed the heaping of abuse on coach O by some of the posters here. I wonder how many haters are actually LSU fans. Give the man a chance , we may be setting on a powerhouse team.
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:29 am to cheeser
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Give the man a chance
What were the 2016 and 2017 seasons?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:42 am to RedTigerRulz
So why did we hire for continuity?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:54 am to fischd1
“ Great and well thought out post”
Not really. Did any of us really not know for a few yrs now that the LSU football program was not functioning at the same level it was before?? I mean, we fired a coach. Does anyone really need a thread to tell us what everyone already knew.
The news is, the decline is even more severe now than it was before we fired the last staff. That’s the real troubling point, but some have a problem seeing the forest for the trees.
The other news is that some just can’t stop bringing up a coach gone 21 games. At the end of the upcoming season the last coach will have been gone for bout 34 games, but I am sure some will still use him for cover for the failure of others.
Not really. Did any of us really not know for a few yrs now that the LSU football program was not functioning at the same level it was before?? I mean, we fired a coach. Does anyone really need a thread to tell us what everyone already knew.
The news is, the decline is even more severe now than it was before we fired the last staff. That’s the real troubling point, but some have a problem seeing the forest for the trees.
The other news is that some just can’t stop bringing up a coach gone 21 games. At the end of the upcoming season the last coach will have been gone for bout 34 games, but I am sure some will still use him for cover for the failure of others.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:55 am to Catman88
Yeah.
I would rather have Les.
And I fully advocated firing Les.
I would rather have Les.
And I fully advocated firing Les.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:11 am to nitwit
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I would rather have Les.
the frustration when he was here was high as well. The way things are now, I can't even get mad anymore. We're doomed with the pieces that are in place now.
I would not want to go back to Les now though.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:42 am to nitwit
Les was stealing money. Period.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:30 pm to Bloodworth
If Les was stealing money, then O has looted Fort Knox.
Les brought us championships making not much more than O is now (prior to Miles’s last contract). O will bring us to the Walk-On's Independence Bowl, and worse.
Les brought us championships making not much more than O is now (prior to Miles’s last contract). O will bring us to the Walk-On's Independence Bowl, and worse.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Les brought us championships making not much more than O is now (prior to Miles’s last contract). O will bring us to the Walk-On's Independence Bowl, and worse.
don't kid yourself homer.....Les worked the system like only Les can do.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:52 pm to cheeser
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:30 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Went to the Fairgrounds the other day. Put my money on a horse that ran 5th three consecutive times. Figure he was due. He ran 5th.
if you knew anything about horse racing you would know that that is the exception and not the norm. To many variables in horse racing for any type of true consistency. Unless you are tight friends with at least a couple of jockeys, owners, or trainers or others on the inside, don't count on winning.
what horses at the track have to do with coach O is beyond me. Terrible analogy.
edit: sometimes the track and conditions and other factors contribute to a consistant non winning horse to put it all together, and suddenly become a winning horse, sort of like perhaps coach O.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:38 pm to Tiger Voodoo
someone has to explain how O saved the 2016 season by losing out on a shot at the sugar bowl by losing at home to a 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters. thats sounds like the last few years of the guy that was fired
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:40 pm to Dave England
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What were the 2016 and 2017 seasons?
2016 he was interim HC and turned the team that had lost 2 of its first 4 games around and got it back on the winning track and saved the team from imploding that season.
2017 was his first full season. Which the team stumbled big time out of the gates, a lot of it due to key injuries, suspensions, transfers, lack of depth on the lines and a sputtering offense that was to complicated and to much to soon for our players. Once again, instead of imploding, like so many on here said was going to happen with many predicting they wouldn't win another game, he got the team back on track.
Now we are in season 2, which is where the pavement hits the road. We will see what happens,
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:41 pm to cheeser
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I can also tell you I would rather have Tinkerbell as coach than GooOleLess.
Well this is probably why we have Orgeron, because of people like you.
You don't get to complain about shite. You wanted anyone but Les, well we got anyone.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:44 pm to MorbidTheClown
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of course it did, that's why the fired the other guy.
/thread
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:46 pm to Bloodworth
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Les was stealing money. Period.
What we were paying Les and what the program was worth, we got a steal on Les. We are paying more money now than we did with Les. The buyouts+ the raises + the analyst jobs means LSU is shelling out more for its Football staff now than it was a few years ago.
Without better results.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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someone has to explain how O saved the 2016 season by losing out a shite at the sugar bowl by losing at home to a 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters. thats sounds like the last few years of the guy that was fired
yes it is hard to explain what happened to Arandas defense at the end of that game, a game we should have won and a team we clearly had outplayed. It's football though, the best team doesn't always win. Notre Dame really brought it that day and the football gods seemed to be on their side that day. We just can't let that kind of thing happen very often in the future. It's what can get even good coaches fired (but not first year coaches)
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:51 pm to dgnx6
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e are paying more money now than we did with Les. The buyouts+ the raises + the analyst jobs means LSU is shelling out more for its Football staff now than it was a few years ago.
it's just the direction big time college football has gone. What coaches are getting paid is ridiculous ($75 mill for Fisher for ex). Also why we are just now stepping up to the plate with getting on board with all the analyst doesn't make sense. Seems we are always one step behind on these kind of things. Why didn't Miles get this done years ago when Bama started doing it?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:53 pm to boxcar willie
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es it is hard to explain what happened to Arandas defense at the end of that game, a game we should have won and a team we clearly had outplayed. It's football though, the best team doesn't always win. Notre Dame really brought it that day and the football gods seemed to be on their side that day. We just can't let that kind of thing happen very often in the future. It's what can get even good coaches fired (but not first year coaches)
you're talking about the 2017 season brother. im talking about 2016.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:59 pm to boxcar willie
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2016 he was interim HC and turned the team that had lost 2 of its first 4 games around and got it back on the winning track and saved the team from imploding that season.
the 2 losses were on the road to teams finished ranked.
we played 2 teams with a pulse after that and O lost both. one was to go to the sugar bowl.
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Which the team stumbled big time out of the gates, a lot of it due to key injuries, suspensions, transfers, lack of depth on the line
this is utter bullshite. lsu is infinitely more talented than miss st and troy.
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Once again, instead of imploding, like so many on here said was going to happen with many predicting they wouldn't win another game, he got the team back on track.
are you serious? im not giving him credit because he stopped losing to inferior teams. good god brother.
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Now we are in season 2, which is where the pavement hits the road. We will see what happens,
what 2018 record would make you admit O isnt the right coach for lsu?
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