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Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1365 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:52 am
After reading the language it seems this is not for hiring but for firing. Meaning. Woodward gave him a budget to figure out buyouts and how many he can replace. Supposedly Pelini took a reduction.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:58 am to
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Woodward gave him a budget to figure out buyouts and how many he can replace. Supposedly Pelini took a reduction



Well if you believe the smoke that Pelini was Woody's hire and not O's....then Woody's arse should be negotiating that one.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:59 am to
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Well if you believe the smoke that Pelini was Woody's hire and not O's....then Woody's arse should be negotiating that one.


Yeah but it’s not fantasyland.

Woody approved the hire said good things about before O made the call but O made the call.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:09 am to
Woody is O's boss...so if he told him to make the call, then yes he would have.

Similar to Matt Canada, who was Alleva's golden boy. O never wanted him to begin with.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:10 am to
Amazing the bs folks will use to protect, defend O.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:11 am to
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Amazing the bs folks will use to protect, defend O.



How am I defending him?

If your boss tells you to do something, do you do it?
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:15 am to
Lol it didn’t happen.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:23 am to
I figured this meant that whoever we hire has to be proven worth it and we would likely take some new young blood for less money than what we have spent in past few yrs.

I dont think we will clean house and then hamper ourselves with being too cheap to replace them with above average people.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:27 am to
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Woody is O's boss...so if he told him to make the call, then yes he would have.

Similar to Matt Canada, who was Alleva's golden boy. O never wanted him to begin with


Holy shite. Some of you will go to any depth to keep all blame off of Orgeron.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:28 am to
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How am I defending him?


quote:

Woody is O's boss...so if he told him to make the call, then yes he would have.

Similar to Matt Canada, who was Alleva's golden boy. O never wanted him to begin with


Seems pretty clear to me.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14392 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:31 am to
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Lol it didn’t happen.

TBL said it did. Do you have better sources than him?
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They were hoping Bo would make this easy but he wants his guaranteed contract. Scott really f"ed this one up. This contract is not O's fault at all.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 7:37 am
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:33 am to
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Holy shite. Some of you will go to any depth to keep all blame off of Orgeron.


And Holy shite, some of you are so dense to ignore things that actually occurred.

I am not defending O whatsoever, he did a piss poor job of coaching this year.

However, it's becoming more clear that Pelini was wanted by Woodward and not O. Therefore, if that is indeed the case, that should be Woodward's mess to clean up.
Posted by tigerwith3
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2011
1384 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:03 am to
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Well if you believe the smoke that Pelini was Woody's hire and not O's....then Woody's arse should be negotiating that one.

Don’t let O’s propaganda machine fool you. Do you believe that O was forced to hire a coach that he didn’t want after the season he had last year.? His stock was at an all time high and the AD isn’t pushing coordinator hires over O following that season.

O could have told Woody to frick off and he would have said yes sir. That was all O’s hire.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9712 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:05 am to
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After reading the language it seems this is not for hiring but for firing.


Brooks kubena confirmed this on OTB this morning.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9608 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:10 am to
I highly doubt Orgeron wasn't allowed to hire whatever DC he wanted coming off of a 15-0 season. If he's too weak to say no to who he doesn't want then that's an even worse look for him.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5973 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:13 am to
I think It’s just a PR rumor maneuver during the funding issues of covid. If they want someone they will pay for him.

Also, they may be trying to set a lower marking round for negotiations with the next guy.
Posted by IAHTiger
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2018
184 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:16 am to
Woody had no leverage after last season. Now, well, its a totally different story.

Successful head football coaches are the most powerful people in the State, period. Remember the Saban stories around BR. Saban wouldn't attend a meeting with called by Skip without Emmert being there.

Today, Woody is in way more control. I suspect Woody is pre approving actual details of all hires at this point. They are 80M short on revenue, firing only 16 people in athletic building (how much did that really save?), SEC is giving all member schools about 20M (pre pay type deal on TV money) and athletic department is after the TAF to give athletic dept another $20M -- LSU normally makes about 40M profit. So, athletic department cash flow is actually negative right now or very close. Not good.
Woody ain't no finance boy but he can read a basic cash flow statement.
Interim Pres Tom has no answers either fiscally. He's a legal blow hard spewing rhetoric.

Its pretty damn real in the athletic department.

TAF has stonewalled the athletic department's request. Why? Well, because TAF donors by and large don't support woke stuff nor a head coach acting like a goofball.


Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28235 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:27 am to
It means O doesn't have a blank check to pay guys WAY over market value (thought that was Woodward's fault, not O's. He has the ultimate say on salary).

I think LSU would spend $2+ million on a coordinator IF the market justified it. After 2019 LSU acted like the solid, financially sound business who hit one massive year and threw all of their financial principles out the window. Paying full sticker price for a Toyota Corolla. Going to Vegas and picking up strippers. Refusing to eat burgers from Curbside...insisting that the only place they could now eat was Ruth's, etc, etc. Then the market had a downturn they thought would never come
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:41 am to
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However, it's becoming more clear that Pelini was wanted by Woodward and not O


It did? Then please provide me where this was made clear to you.
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