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Sullivan’s “incomplete” catch

Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:14 pm
What am I missing here?

- Completed catch, no bobble
- makes two steps towards sideline
- becomes engaged in a tackle by Ark DB
- Ark DB tackles him
- Ball pops out when his back hits the ground

Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:18 pm to
have to control the catch "through the ground" in college
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

have to control the catch "through the ground" in college


Correct. But that doesn’t apply after you take two steps without contact.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66332 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:21 pm to
Right?
I understand controlling the ball to the ground, but Sullivan had it and took a few steps. How long do you have to have it?
Posted by LSUMIKEV
Member since Sep 2017
784 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:22 pm to
He has no chance of catching that ball when ruling is out of Birmingham no doubt
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

have to control the catch "through the ground" in college


Not after you establish possession, which he did
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80157 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:23 pm to
Just like the NFL the NCAA has no idea on what a catch is or isn’t
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2296 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

have to control the catch "through the ground" in college


Wouldn’t the two steps towards the sideline establish possession and preclude the fumble caused by the ground?
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96127 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:28 pm to
Thought it was Definently a catch but knew they wouldn't overturn!!
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80157 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:30 pm to
The wording of the catch rule is retarded and needs to be changed
Posted by ByUselves
On a Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
3793 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:42 pm to
You are missing the same thing everyone else is missing.
Bad rules confuse. If you are running the ball, break the plane of goal line, TD, even if you fumble a millisecond later. If you catch a ball in the end zone, fall to ground,having complete control,then ball comes loose, no TD.
How can that be, basically same thing, control of ball in EZ, but, rules officials have made the refs have a Doctarate degree to call the game correctly.

Go figure!
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12846 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

quote:
have to control the catch "through the ground" in college


Correct. But that doesn’t apply after you take two steps without contact.
That was my thought on it, no bobbling while making 1-1/2 steps, contact initiated, go to ground... incomplete. Just because that sequence happens in quick succession doesn't mean the sequence doesn't happen.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164011 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 1:00 pm to
The worst part was they looked at it for about 10 seconds.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30353 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I understand controlling the ball to the ground, but Sullivan had it and took a few steps. How long do you have to have it?


It was like the Jacob Hester non-catch in that crooked 2006 Auburn game. Took 2 steps with the ball first.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67839 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 1:25 pm to
The way the rule is written is a bit confusing
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3694 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 1:32 pm to
It was the right call. He caught it, got it immediately and went to the ground. He hit the groud and ball came out
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17690 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

He has no chance of catching that ball when ruling is out of Birmingham no doubt


Yeah, refs really screwed us yesterday.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4931 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

have to control the catch "through the ground" in college


No you don't, not when its in the middle of the field and the WR catches it, makes 2 steps with ball secure then makes a 3rd step gets tackled, his knee goes down first, then his elbow, arse and back hit then the DB pulls the ball out after all that? bullshite.

Those through the ground deals are on a close or diving catch in the middle of the field or close to the out of bounds.

That was a catch.

In your analogy- if a WR catches the ball and takes 4, 5, 6 steps and the same shite happens what say you then?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

He caught it, got it immediately and went to the ground.



no he didin't . He caught the ball, ran with it, got tackled, hit the ground and fumbled with the ground causing the fumble.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 11/12/17 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

What am I missing here?

-Tom Ritter is running the instant replay booth in Birmingham.

Not saying we were cheated. SEC replay booth is incompetent.
This post was edited on 11/12/17 at 3:19 pm
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