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re: Some LSU fans are either joking or they apparently have never played baseball.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:00 pm to ell_13
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:00 pm to ell_13
So you can then take that and apply it to every situation even when it doesn’t apply? You can make false statements about Helmers being cut from the pitching staff and why he was playing 1st base? You can make up stuff about why he was moved to 3rd base? And we should believe everything PM said about the situation is a lie because you (who obviously has no clue) says so?
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:03 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:How does it not apply? You have a coach who didn’t even know this kid played the position in high school putting him there because he happened to see some grounders at 1B and it wasn’t terrible. Paul obviously had other better options there (which we know) yet he tried it anyway. That’s going with your gut. I shouldn’t have to keep explaining that to you.
So you can then take that and apply it to every situation even when it doesn’t apply?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:04 pm to ell_13
Haha now you change things, next. You should teach people how to use hindsight ahead of time. That’s neat how you know how things are going to turn out.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:08 pm to GoneFishing21
If I send you messages from a private group text complaint about Hellmers getting a second start, will you fricking back off on thinking this is some hindsight argument? I already told you to look for my posts regarding Floyd and George. Ffs. 
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:10 pm to HuckFinn
Maneiri sucks and so do you
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:12 pm to ell_13
No because you still made up a bunch of stuff and you didn’t know how Helmers would perform in a second game or before the first. Again Thompson had been inaccurate throwing to first and they were not satisfied with him making too many errors so they made a decision based off what they were seeing that you had no knowledge of. You’re trying to act brilliant because you said they should start someone else after you weren’t impressed im the first game? No sorry. You don’t get any credit for that. I thought Drost would have started from the beginning of the year. He didn’t and got a hit today. Should we fire PM because I knew better?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:15 pm to GoneFishing21
Got it. It doesn’t matter what I do. You’re going to defend the coach and his bad decisions because he knows best and sees things we don’t. That second start for Hellmers isn’t allowed to be questioned before or after. Not having our closer available for our only save opportunity isn’t a problem for you either. Good to know.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:22 pm to ell_13
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You’re going to defend the coach and his bad decisions because he knows best and sees things we don’t.
What is it you saw in practice and scrimmages exactly? Again you haven’t shown why PM would benefit from lying about Helmers performing better defensively? You literally think he made it up when “we knew better”. You didn’t know anything. You’ve already proven that. Again, you thought he was cut from the pitching staff because he couldn’t cut it. I haven’t defended PM starting Helmers. I’ve defended his right to do so given that he is the coach and sees what you don’t and determined that Thompson had not been accurate enough throwing the ball to be relied upon. I also defend his choice in starting Thompson after Helmers games. I don’t use hindsight to say Helmers never should have played in the first place and act like we all knew it and had this knowledge gotten from thin air that made us more aware of the situation than PM.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:24 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:Well.. if you reread this sentence... that’s exactly what it means.
Again, you thought he was cut from the pitching staff because he couldn’t cut it.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:24 pm to ell_13
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Not having our closer available for our only save opportunity isn’t a problem for you either. Good to know.
Again, I don’t have the ability to know what’s best in that situation. The coaches didn’t feel he should pitch again so soon this early in the year. It’s already been spoken on in the post game yesterday. Had Fontenot thrown again and had arm soreness or an injury then we would get to hear yours and others opinions on PM’s overuse of him leading to an injury.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:25 pm to ell_13
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Well.. if you reread this sentence... that’s exactly what it means
You don’t get it, dude. He was never cut from the pitching staff. I was saying you believe he was.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:29 pm to GoneFishing21
My god. My point is he’s not being looked at to pitch if he’s getting a chance to start at 3B. He’s still on the team and can still pitch one day sure. It’s obviously more likely to be his future at this point anyway. If he was a top 10 pitcher like Paul claimed, he’s be too valuable to the pen to use on the field and him not be able to get ready if needed.
If he was a top 10 pitcher like Paul claimed, he’s be too valuable to the pen to use on the field and him not be able to get ready if needed. Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:31 pm to ell_13
Got it. Paul lied about it and you know better. And you said he didn’t cut it as a pitcher. Quit trying to change your stories now.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:45 pm to GoneFishing21
He didn’t cut it as a pitcher or he would have pitched this weekend. Or do you think he’s starting Wednesday?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:50 pm to ell_13
And you can’t have it both ways.
Either Paul thinks he’s a top 10 pitcher or he doesn’t. If he’s not starting or closing, that leaves 5 spots for other relievers. We didn’t see him this weekend so he’s not top 10 in Paul’s eyes. Period. So yes. Paul lies.
Also, either paul missed in his evaluation of 3B or he missed with his gut feeling. Again, you can’t have it both ways. Either way, he was wrong. And you can take your pick if you think he’s a bad evaluator (who doesn’t watch his players in high school or know what positions they play half the time) or he missed with his gut. Take your pick. It’s one or the other.
Either Paul thinks he’s a top 10 pitcher or he doesn’t. If he’s not starting or closing, that leaves 5 spots for other relievers. We didn’t see him this weekend so he’s not top 10 in Paul’s eyes. Period. So yes. Paul lies.
Also, either paul missed in his evaluation of 3B or he missed with his gut feeling. Again, you can’t have it both ways. Either way, he was wrong. And you can take your pick if you think he’s a bad evaluator (who doesn’t watch his players in high school or know what positions they play half the time) or he missed with his gut. Take your pick. It’s one or the other.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:50 pm to ell_13
Again, making stuff up doesn’t make it true. Try to follow along or don’t comment on stuff you don’t know about. PM and AD discussed whether they had enough depth on the staff to remove one of their top 10 pitcher (Helmers) so that he could start at 3rd base because he had been more consistent there than any of the other people competing and he wanted to be solid there and not give up runs. After the first two games, in hindsight, Helmers did not appear ready. You didn’t know that ahead of time and you just keep making up stuff that you have no knowledge about. The coaches talked and decided that he could be used at 3rd because they believed that the pitching staff had enough depth to get by. He wasn’t removed from the pitching staff because he “couldn’t cut it” and you saying that he didn’t pitch this weekend is not evidence of anything. Of course he didn’t pitch. He’s been working as a position player.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:53 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:Oh is that what happened?
PM and AD discussed whether they had enough depth on the staff to remove one of their top 10 pitcher (Helmers)
quote:Oh so they stopped letting him pitch altogether? Yikes. Even worse.
He wasn’t removed from the pitching staff because he “couldn’t cut it” and you saying that he didn’t pitch this weekend is not evidence of anything. Of course he didn’t pitch. He’s been working as a position player.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:53 pm to ell_13
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either paul missed in his evaluation of 3B or he missed with his gut feeling
Right. He should’ve listened to us because “we all knew” what he didn’t. The fact is that you really don’t have a clue. For all any of us know, Helmers could be the starter there by the end of the season. He is a true freshman who played in two games and you already know all there is to know about him and his future. Give me a break. If you want to act like you know so much then read up a little bit more so you can at least give accurate stories instead of made up ones like you’ve repeatedly done to try to prove a point.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:54 pm to ell_13
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Oh is that what happened?
Well that’s what was said. Is that another lie that you have personal knowledge of? Do tell how the conversation between PM and AD went since you seem to have been there
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:58 pm to GoneFishing21
Look. You are obviously triggered over this. Sleep it off tonight and we can restart in the morning. Recharge a little.
As for him pitching, no coach would forego a top 5 reliever. Pitching is too important. It was a weak compliment in the first place and yes Paul lies. Coaches lie to recruits and the media. I’m sorry you had to learn this way.
And yes, it’s one or the other. Either a bad gut feeling or a bad evaluation. That much is known. Can he come back? Sure. But not any time soon. He’s proven he’s not ready.
As for him pitching, no coach would forego a top 5 reliever. Pitching is too important. It was a weak compliment in the first place and yes Paul lies. Coaches lie to recruits and the media. I’m sorry you had to learn this way.
And yes, it’s one or the other. Either a bad gut feeling or a bad evaluation. That much is known. Can he come back? Sure. But not any time soon. He’s proven he’s not ready.
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