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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:08 am
Posted by LSUlax17
Member since Jun 2014
745 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:08 am
I hate seeing this team suck but at least O destroyed the team fast so we can get rid of him and Alleva fast. If he had a fluke good season this year going 10-2 off of Mile's recruits similar to what Muschamp did at Florida we'd be stuck with him for at least 5 years. And all the retards would point to this one season when things started going south as a reason to keep him as he slowly killed our program. By destroying the team so fast O is like chemotherapy, yeah it's making us puke but it'll help us get rid of the cancer killing our football team: Joe Alleva.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:10 am to
quote:

I hate seeing this team suck but at least O destroyed the team fast so we can get rid of him and Alleva fast. If he had a fluke good season this year going 10-2 off of Mile's recruits similar to what Muschamp did at Florida
while I agree with your bigger point...8-4 would be a fluke good season for O
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:11 am to
quote:

I hate seeing this team suck but at least O destroyed the team fast so we can get rid of him and Alleva fast. If he had a fluke good season this year going 10-2 off of Mile's recruits similar to what Muschamp did at Florida we'd be stuck with him for at least 5 years. And all the retards would point to this one season when things started going south as a reason to keep him as he slowly killed our program. By destroying the team so fast O is like chemotherapy, yeah it's making us puke but it'll help us get rid of the cancer killing our football team: Joe Alleva.

It clearly offers a season to rebuild as well as provide on the field action for freshman athletes (if they are utilized)
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84034 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:11 am to
This is looking at it in a glass quarter full kind of way. I like it, and agree. This train wreck of a season should get the wheels of change in motion very quickly.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56172 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:12 am to
quote:

I hate seeing this team suck but at least O destroyed the team fast so we can get rid of him and Alleva fast. I
You are correct.

I really thought we would suffer a gradual decline. This going to hell so fast may keep O from hanging around long.
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
399 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:16 am to
Failing fast is definitely preferable to bleeding out over the next five years. My biggest fear after the Orgeron hire was that he would typically have 8-4 or 7-5 type seasons which over time would become the norm for LSU football. I'll take the current mess over that scenario every time. LSU has proven that it can compete, year after year, with anyone in the country and that needs to continue being the goal going forward.

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28175 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:19 am to
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O is like chemotherapy, yeah it's making us puke but it'll help us get rid of the cancer killing our football team: Joe Alleva.


Great analogy! But it's not just the football program. It's the entire athletic dept that's suffering from the illness that is Alleva.

He's mishandled coaching salaries so badly that LSU is going to need a shipload of money to bail out just the football team. And they're doing so after Joe absolutely pissed away money by giving Johnny Jones and Les needless extensions, along with guaranteeing Ogeron's contract.

Here's a new analogy -- Joe Alleva is "New Coke". A giant expensive business mistake. LSU needs someone, somewhere who understands that though it may not be pleasant to say, the LSU athletic dept. is a multi-million dollar business not simply just a university dept in charge of extracurricular activities. Therefore, like Coke, it's time to "eat" the huge financial mistake for the betterment of the future of the business.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9908 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

while I agree with your bigger point...8-4 would be a fluke good season for O

Bookmark this post because this team will go 3-9.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23274 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9908 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Joe Alleva is "New Coke". A giant expensive business mistake.

This x 1000
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12818 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:27 am to
quote:

I hate seeing this team suck but at least O destroyed the team fast so we can get rid of him and Alleva fast. If he had a fluke good season this year going 10-2 off of Mile's recruits similar to what Muschamp did at Florida we'd be stuck with him for at least 5 years. And all the retards would point to this one season when things started going south as a reason to keep him as he slowly killed our program. By destroying the team so fast O is like chemotherapy, yeah it's making us puke but it'll help us get rid of the cancer killing our football team: Joe Alleva.
I get your point. But elite programs do not come from such things. It takes years or decades of struggle to come back from. Nebraska, Notre Dame (a couple of times), tOSU, Michigan, USC, Bama, UF, Miami, Texas... the list is long.

The other list, the one where major setback cause a "reset" followed by consistent top-10, not even championship, seasons within 4 years:
nothing off the top of my head
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:28 am to
I havent seen a logical post with this many upvotes in a long time on trant
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Bookmark this post because this team will go 3-9.
I think you misunderstood my post
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:44 am to
We have to start looking at it this way! We have no choice! They have a meeting to all get on the same page? Are you fricking kidding me, 5 games into the 2017 season??


That right there says it all! A head coach that doesn't know his head from his arse!
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:46 am
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:56 am to
I remember the stunned euphoria I was experiencing in Bryant-Denny when Curley Hallman somehow beat Alabama instantly turning to nauseous dispair when a Bama fan pointed out "yeah, but now you're stuck with Hallman for another season." I don't think we will have any such issues with O.
Posted by L5UT1ger
Member since Feb 2004
2597 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:57 am to
Another good thing might be that it speeds up the process of getting great again.

I dont remember who said it, but the theory is that its always best to avoid following a great coach. Its ideal to follow a great coach's successor. The coach after O will have just about nothing to live up to in order to be an improvement.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278034 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:28 am to
lol if you think O "destroyed" this team. Like just now, thru 5 games. That's funny
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:29 am
Posted by LAD
New Iberia
Member since Feb 2016
1283 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:28 am to
Roughly similar to a lobotomy vs. an ongoing nagging headache
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15648 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:55 am to
I agree with this. I'm afraid that we are in quite a hole financially. We are currently buying out Les, and JJones and will add 12M for O and who knows what for his coordinators and other coaches. On top of that we would need to pay top dollar to attract a decent AD and of course top dollar to get a coach that is just a decent upgrade. I don't see how it will all be afforded. This is a financial abyss that will also be exaggerated by the loss of revenue that will come out of this and next years disasters on the football field. It all needs to be done, but will be very painful. I can see us going into quite a money hole for years to come.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:14 am to
If O doesn’t get a split over the next 2 weeks, Alleva could be in a world of trouble.

An 0-3 SEC start? Alleva could be gone by Thanksgiving.

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