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re: Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?

Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:16 am to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:16 am to
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saying something untrue, with intent to harm and causing damages is defamation. 


Damages would be dicey to prove seeing as he voluntarily sought to have himself removed from the draft and he didn't have actual money or loss as well as a few other things.

As far as we've seen absolutely nothing untrue has been said. All the brpd has said is they want to ask him some questions and he is not a suspect and proving intent to harm in this situation against a police department investigating a murder is damn near impossible, consequences and intent are not the same thing.

Further, defamation suits are almost always frivolous and hard to prove, he might have celebrity status which makes it even harder, and there is not one spec of evidence of wrongdoing.

Just that his pr team handled this like idiots
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:21 am to
By your assertions. Im assuming you would be Ok with cops calling your boss and posting on your facebook with the message "Hey breesus isnt a suspect and we don't have any proof he even may have been involved but we'd like to talk to him about the murder of his alleged ex girlfriend that he may or may not have been in contact with. P.S we actually already got a hold of him directly but he wanted to get a lawyer before talking to police so if you could just tell all your friends about this that would be great."
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:24 am to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:27 am to
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Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:31 am to
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Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:31 am to
By your response I'm assuming you are unable to answer any of my direct questions.

Also, as to your hypothetical, I'm not sure I would be OK with that, but I don't see anything that violates the 4th or 5th amendments.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:37 am to
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Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation? by theantiquetiger


lolwut?
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:43 am to
The right to be secure in your person?


Or how about that the the fact that unless I am really misunderstanding something (Like I said Im not a lawyer but having been in the military became familiar with not only military but federal regulations) federal privacy or "confidentiality laws" were violated by releasing the full name of a NON SUSPECT to the public without proper consent and notification.

If he has anything to do with this police need to abide by the laws and regulations that are put in place to keep their power in check so that they dont start a witchhunt. Unfortunately these tactics have become so commonplace that many of these regulations are completely ignored.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:47 am to
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the fact that unless I am really misunderstanding something


You are. We keep trying to tell you that, but you don't want to seem to listen.
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:50 am to
What then of federal privacy and confidentiality regulations or laws am I missing with this. Because by your comprehension of this police can release the names of anyone whos slept with a murder victim when they want to speak with them even if they have not been determined a suspect.

Addition: I'm open to correction but please tell me how this doesnt apply.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:51 am to
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The right to be secure in your person?
Is that codified somewhere?

quote:

federal privacy or "confidentiality laws" were violated by releasing the full name of a NON SUSPECT to the public without proper consent and notification.
I'm unaware of any law that prevents police from truthfully identifying someone they are interested in speaking with.

quote:

police need to abide by the laws and regulations that are put in place to keep their power in check
Which they have based on everything we know.

quote:

Unfortunately these tactics have become so commonplace that many of these regulations are completely ignored.
What regulation has been ignored?


Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

What then of federal privacy and confidentiality regulations or laws am I missing with this. Because by your comprehension of this police can release the names of anyone whos slept with a murder victim when they want to speak with them even if they have not been determined a suspect.


Sure, if that person is deemed a person of interest.

Did you ever think that there might be more than what has been released?

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:54 am to
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What then of federal privacy and confidentiality regulations or laws am I missing with this.
You are missing identifying any privacy or confidentiality law - federal, state or bird - that has been violated based on the known information.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:57 am to
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federal privacy and confidentiality regulations or laws


You need to tell us what laws or regulations you think apply to this situation.

I don't know of any.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:01 am to
With the way the draft is, can you guarantee me where he would be picked? How much exactly his contract would then be afterwards?

No, you can't. Because there are no guarantees. He may have dropped out of the first anyway, I doubt it, but it's possible.

Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:01 am to
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Did you ever think that there might be more than what has been released?


Oh, you dun did it now. I see down votes in your future.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:02 am to
Yeah, I would like for people to not call him a "murdering murderer". I mean, besides the fact that it's just poor grammar, he has yet to be convicted, much less charged, for murdering murdering someone.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:03 am to
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Oh, you dun did it now. I see down votes in your future.


I eat downvotes for breakfast.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:05 am to
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Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:11 am to
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I eat downvotes for breakfast.


I thought the goal of posting was to get the most down votes. Am I doing it wrong?
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