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re: SEC Sweet 16 best football players since 1980

Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by King Joey
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:15 pm to
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To the poster who questions Wilbur Marshall's place on the list, I am curious if you saw him play college?
Yes, I did.
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Marshall was a force and I certainly have no problem with where he is ranked.
No doubt he was a force, and one of the greats. But I also saw Dorsey and Peterson play, and Alan Faneca, and Michael Brooks; are there any of those you could say weren't a "force"?

As was posted above, past the first few, it becomes a nit-picking and hairsplitting debate. I would put those guys (and a few others like Reed, Ingram, Emmitt and that Tennessee WR from about '98-'99 whose name I can't remember now) ahead of Marshall, but I certainly wouldn't call it wrong to put him ahead.

Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:16 pm to
Not knocking any of those guys but you could arguably replace any with the following; Dorsey, Emmett Smith, Peterson, Reed, Hilliard, Faneca, Mawae, Ingram, Bradie James, George Teague, Jamal Lewis or a host of others. Even one-hit-wonder Cam deserves a mention for one of the all-time great collegiate seasons.
Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:25 pm to
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Dorsey, Emmett Smith, Peterson, Reed, Hilliard, Faneca, Mawae, Ingram, Bradie James, George Teague, Jamal Lewis or a host of others


come on. I am an LSU fan and can't even make the case for 7 other LSU players to make the list. Objectivity may be in order. While they were all excellent college players, I dont see them as top 16 since 1980.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:30 pm to
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come on. I am an LSU fan and can't even make the case for 7 other LSU players to make the list. Objectivity may be in order. While they were all excellent college players, I dont see them as top 16 since 1980.
I think his point was that such a ranking is subjective enough that several dozen more players could easily be argued worthy (including several from LSU). I don't believe he was actually suggesting that 8 of the top 16 SEC players in the last 30 years have been from LSU.

Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44541 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:41 pm to
Alexander over Ingram?

and the real travesty... no Champ Bailey?

wow
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:43 pm to
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Tebow at 2 is dumb, no way he was better than Bo

Pollack being 9 is retarded

sCam Newton should be nowhere near the list, neither should McFadden


Pollack I agree with you position, but you fail miserably on the other points....
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:44 pm to
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and the real travesty... no Champ Bailey?

wow
Wow, indeed. I can't believe I forgot about him. Yet another in the long line of SEC greats.

Posted by The ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
825 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:44 pm to
well said. reading comprehension is clearly not a strength of mine!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:45 pm to
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Not knocking any of those guys but you could arguably replace any with the following; Dorsey, Emmett Smith, Peterson, Reed, Hilliard, Faneca, Mawae, Ingram, Bradie James, George Teague, Jamal Lewis or a host of others. Even one-hit-wonder Cam deserves a mention for one of the all-time great collegiate seasons.


I love Kevin, but NFL=/=NCAA. He was is behind other LSU lineman as well......Andolsek, Albergamo, and Lance Smith just to name a few. While he had a stellar/HOF career in the NFL, in college he was great but not legendary.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:52 pm to
Damn, 16 SEC players from the past 30 years, that's tough. I'm not sure I'd have any LSU players on that.
This post was edited on 3/22/11 at 2:02 pm
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:57 pm to
Champ Baily and George Teague are good ones. I'm thinking of Hines Ward, too, but I also think his pro career influences that more than his college career.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12493 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:57 pm to
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I love Kevin, but NFL=/=NCAA.
I was torn on Mawae, as well. There was so much crappiness on those teams he played on (especially the coaching staff) that it was really difficult to gauge how well he was doing his job. Ultimately I couldn't put him in simply because I couldn't see enough success in his body of work, even though I knew it likely wasn't his fault.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12493 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 1:59 pm to
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the past 20 years
30 years. 1980 was 30 years ago.

Yeah, we're really freakin' old, man.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:00 pm to
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and that Tennessee WR from about '98-'99 whose name I can't remember now)


must have been really good to where you cant even remember his name
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:04 pm to
Damn, you're right, 30. At least start start the bracket with 64 and narrow it down to 16.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:06 pm to
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even though I knew it likely wasn't his fault.


meh.....not really the case. Kevin played up to his potential garnering All-SEC honors for 3 straight years, but not quite AA level. Kenny Ferro adored Kevin and put him on the fast track until the Archer regime was removed. Then Buddy King took over. Though Buddy was a sack of shite, he loved Kevin (what coach wouldn't) and did provide enough guidance for his success.

Kevin has always struggled keeping on top teir weight. Guy's naturally lean and was pounding the Weight Gainer 2000 shakes right after his senior season to just get in the neighborhood of 280.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12493 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:07 pm to
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must have been really good to where you cant even remember his name
Heh, yeah, meant to take that out. Turns out it was Joey Kent I was thinking of, a bit earlier than I thought ('93-'96).

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:12 pm to
i was thinking peerless price, forgot all about kent
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:15 pm to
I know no one is going to agree with me, but based on college Wuerffel should be above Manning.

Danny won 4 SEC titles and 1 national title, a Heisman Trophy, 2 Davey O'Brien awards, set record for career TD passes.

Manning had incredible stats as well, but lacks the hardware. (And went 0-4 against UF fwiw )
Posted by Broham
Crowley
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:18 pm to
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