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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by TheBear60
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:06 pm to
I thought this was pretty well set.
No divisions.
One conference, like basketball.
16 teams divided into "football" schools & have nots.
8 "football schools are LSU, 8&$4, Tex, OU, Bama, Aub, Geo & Fla.
Each "football" school plays two other "football" schools to keep a level playing field.
One of the sticking points was how/who picks the two teams to play for the conference champ.
Seems funny, but Ross D of SI indicated another one of the sticking points has been who gets some of the non-football school.
Finally, if you think ESPN & the SEC is going to give up LSU vs. Alabama annually, I have some land to sell you south of Pilot Town.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4225 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:08 pm to
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They aren’t going to make any of the big 6 have 3 permanent big 6 rivals.

Bama will 100% have AU and Tennessee. So they will not get LSU, Florida or Georgia as #3. And they won’t get aTm, Texas or OU either.

So who else will the get as their #3 , lpermanent game?


Last Summer, I was on board with the 3-6 model. The 3 Permanents (not POD) allows for example the following schedules

Alabama: Auburn/TENN/ and somebody
UGA: Auburn/Florida/ and somebody
Texas: Texas A&M/OU and somebody
Auburn: UGA/Alabama and somebody
Ole Miss: Miss. State/LSU and somebody
Arkansas: Texas/Mizzou and somebody


Who does LSU get? Well to be honest, LSU does not have a non-negotiable rival game like those above. The closest rival games we have now are Texas A&M and Ole Miss.

So lets say Texas A&M, Ole Miss and maybe Arkansas or Florida. I don't think it will be Miss. State as they are likely going to be Alabama's third team since those schools are only like 75-80 miles apart.

If I were to guess, Miss. State will get Ole Miss, Texas A&M (according to Jimbo at SEC media days) and Bama.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138152 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:09 pm to
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SEC likely to adopt 9 game conference schedule


I don't see it

Nothing in the contract that compels them to have tougher schedules. Don't do it if you aren't getting paid for it.
Posted by GeauxVU
Member since Jan 2022
1462 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

I thought this was pretty well set.


I don’t think anything is set, aka why we have this thread and there’s no consensus.

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Each "football" school plays two other "football" schools to keep a level playing field.


I doubt ESPN would be onboard with this, since it essentially turns half the SEC games into less relevant contests, which waters down their inventory value.

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Finally, if you think ESPN & the SEC is going to give up LSU vs. Alabama annually


No doubt. Part of why I personally think if the 3-6 happens, Bama is one of our permanents. Rivalries and ratings matter.



Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:24 pm to
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It’s a no brainer even if the CFP does not expand. With 16 teams in the SEC you have to play 9 conference games.


horseshite. It gives half the league an extra loss. And I hate the disadvantage teams have every other year when they play 5 road games. They may be talking about his, but I don’t see any way it happens without expanding the playoffs to at least 12 (according to Sankey).
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:26 pm to
I hope it stays at 8 just to piss off the other leagues and the sports media who bitch and complain about the SEC.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4225 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:27 pm to
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I don’t think anything is set, aka why we have this thread and there’s no consensus.

quote:
Each "football" school plays two other "football" schools to keep a level playing field.


I doubt ESPN would be onboard with this, since it essentially turns half the SEC games into less relevant contests, which waters down their inventory value.

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Finally, if you think ESPN & the SEC is going to give up LSU vs. Alabama annually


No doubt. Part of why I personally think if the 3-6 happens, Bama is one of our permanents. Rivalries and ratings matter.



Nope, you get more matchups between brand teams. ESPN is not going to pay top $$$$ to televise LSU for example vs. ULM or ULL, etc. or Alabama vs. Troy or Middle TENN. State, etc.

In an expanded playoff, the SEC is going to get its Champion in, the SEC title game runner up and likely 2 to 3 at-larges in a 12 team CFP.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4225 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Horse shite. It gives half the league an extra loss. And I hate the disadvantage teams have every other year when they play 5 road games. They may be talking about his, but I don’t see any way it happens without expanding the playoffs to at least 12 (according to Sankey).


Playoffs will expand, which is why 9 game schedule will be put in place. ESPN/ABC is going to want more inventory (games) to put in prime time on the 6:30 ESPN game and the 7:15 CST ABC game.

This is heading to an NFL type model
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2372 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:34 pm to
I posted this on the SEC board.

Tough to make everyone happy. But here goes my latest try from listening to the different SEC fan bases.

Alabama - Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi State
LSU - Florida, Texas A&M, Ole Miss

Oklahoma - Texas, Ole Miss, Missouri, (Oklahoma State)
Georgia - Florida, Auburn, South Carolina

Florida - Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, (Florida State)
Texas - Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas

Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
Texas A&M - Texas, LSU, Arkansas

Tennessee - Alabama, Kentucky, Vandy
Arkansas - Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri

South Carolina - Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, (Clemson)
Missouri - Oklahoma, Arkansas, Vandy

Ole Miss - LSU, Oklahoma, Mississippi State
Mississippi State - Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss

Kentucky - Tennessee, S. Carolina, Vandy, (Louisville)
Vandy - Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri

*Missing are the annual LSU games with Alabama, Arkansas, and Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 6:42 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12630 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:02 pm to
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Worst part is 5 conference road games every other year.

Yeah that’s a big issue with the 9 game conference schedule.. the imbalance between home/away games each year.

But I’ll still take a 3-6 format over what we have now.
Posted by GeauxVU
Member since Jan 2022
1462 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:07 pm to
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ESPN is not going to pay top $$$$ to televise LSU for example vs. ULM or ULL, etc. or Alabama vs. Troy or Middle TENN. State, etc.


I don’t think you’re understanding what’s being said…..

There’s no suggestion SEC teams play non-SEC teams. It’s saying ESPN isn’t going to bifurcate the SEC into “football” and “non football” teams, thereby making half of the conference games less relevant…

Capisce, paisan?
Posted by BigTiger80
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
1192 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Alabama - Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi State
LSU - Florida, Texas A&M, Ole Miss


So many of you have LSU married to Florida. I don't get it. Drop Florida and replace with Bama.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11985 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:20 pm to
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horseshite. It gives half the league an extra loss.


Who gives a shite? Win your games. That extra loss you’re referencing is actually more about the fringe teams who need the extra cupcake to make the Birmingham bowl.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12272 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:22 pm to
Can we make it more? At least 10 SEC games and any more need to be power 5.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4225 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:31 pm to
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I don’t think you’re understanding what’s being said…..

There’s no suggestion SEC teams play non-SEC teams. It’s saying ESPN isn’t going to bifurcate the SEC into “football” and “non football” teams, thereby making half of the conference games less relevant…

Capisce, paisan?


I understand Italian quite well. Capito is understand and Do you understand is actually Capisci with an i not an e as in Italian i actually sounds like eeeeee. e is more an an ehhhh sound. So yes. However, I don't agree with your analyses.

9 games is a win for the SEC. These LSU games vs. group of 5 are not going to 1) Get ESPN to up what they pay relative to what the BIG10 just got and 2) Those games do not bring fans in the Seats, which then hurts game day revenues from concessions and merchandise

Right now LSU plays 8 league games, this year Florida State and 3 OOC games with UAB, New Mexico and Southern (LSU has been playing 1 in-state Group of 5 or D2 program annually for years).

What value does LSU vs. New Mexico or UAB bring to ESPN/ABC/SEC Network. It is a rhetorical question.

On the other hand, a 9th game in Baton Rouge with Texas, OU, high value. LSU seeing UGA, TENN in Tiger Stadium more often than what is going on now, more value.

This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 7:34 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4225 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:36 pm to
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So many of you have LSU married to Florida. I don't get it. Drop Florida and replace with Bama.


Not happening, don't be one of those LSU fans who thinks the Alabama game is what is a "traditional rival game". It is not. A big game many times the last 15 to 20 years, yes. Alabama will play Auburn and Tennessee. They are not going to play LSU along with those 2.

Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2372 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

So many of you have LSU married to Florida. I don't get it. Drop Florida and replace with Bama.


I like the LSU/Bama annual matchup. But balanced scheduling matters.

Bama loves their games with Auburn/Tennesse, more than LSU.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 7:55 pm
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:08 pm to
LSU - A&M, Ole Miss, MSU/Florida
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:20 pm to
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16 team playoff is just so ridiculous and totally finishes off the destruction of college football
16 team playoff is too many, but 4 is definitely too few.

I say expand to 8. Makes perfect sense. At the absolute max it could expand to 10, with a couple play-in games.

But 16 dilutes the regular season far too much.
Posted by GeauxVU
Member since Jan 2022
1462 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:41 pm to
It’s cute you googled the Italian language.

But maybe you should brush up on your English since your reading comprehension skills are lacking. I’m not debating the merits of going to 9 games. What I’ve previously said Re: 3-6 actually implies going to a 9 game conference schedule (3 + 6 = 9….).

What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make sense to arbitrarily match the top tier programs with lower tier programs for the sake of making their schedule a little easier like a previous poster suggested (i.e. not putting all “top 6 teams” against each other), because it waters down half of the CONFERENCE schedule.

Clearer?
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