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re: SEC doesn't waste any time with this officiating issue from UK game

Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:55 pm to
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It was a highly watched game between two good teams with a spectacular ending that garnered a lot of eyeballs and social media attention.

LSU fans have the lowest self-esteem in sports.


So...you think if the situation was reversed, with UK putting in the tip in to win instead of LSU, the ESPN talking heads would have been immediately crying about how LSU got screwed out of the victory because of a missed, judgement call?
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:03 pm to
Exactly the point of this thread bro u are 100% correct. Our administration pissed in someone’s coffee years ago that’s why we need some changes at the Top of our chain.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18131 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:10 pm to
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I think they should just change the stupid cylinder rule which is confusing to begin with. If an offensive player is skilled enough to tip a ball in and not touch the rim, then just count it. It takes skill to do that because it's hard not to touch the rim. Reward the athletic play.
agreed. International rules already permit this.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:11 pm to
The call on Taylor was pretty bad, still the most blatant missed call was the over the back on Naz with about 10 seconds. That would have put him on the line shooting 2.

Not a good ending of the game for the officials, there was 1 bad no call of a foul on Naz, a bad call on a foul on Taylor, missed basket interference on 2 different KY players and possibly a missed offensive goal tending on LSU.

Assuming the if the replay would have been a rule, KY would have been inbounding the ball under the LSU goal down by 2 with less than 1 second to go.

Posted by LSUGraduate2002
Kenner
Member since Nov 2008
192 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:15 pm to
"over the back" is not actually a foul. It is one of the most misunderstood rules in the sport of basketball. The call would have to be a "push" from making contact with the blocking out player. If a player is just taller or more athletic and doesn't push the blocking out player there is no foul.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
Just put a sensor in the rim and tag the ball. Every sport should do this to get calls nearly 100% right
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56200 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
Why is offensive goaltending even a foul?
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7635 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
So what makes a game ending play more significant than other situations that can alter the outcome of the game earlier? Is it because it simply seems more significant because recent events make a bigger impression in our memories or because there is more time for a team to compensate for earlier missed calls? I suppose it is the latter, but missed calls earlier a game can be significant as to the final outcome. The same rules about what is reviewable ought to apply whenever they happen, not just the last play. It seems arbitrary to focus on only end of game calls.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:19 pm to
You would call basket interference on Ky and they would have had about 1.5 seconds with LSU holding a 2 point lead.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18131 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:20 pm to
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The call on Taylor was pretty bad,
agreed, and I'm surprised this doesn't get more attention. It was a pu**y call by the ref - 20 feet from the basket, with very little contact, and the game on the line.

Really bad call there.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18131 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:21 pm to
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ou would call basket interference on Ky and they would have had about 1.5 seconds with LSU holding a 2 point lead.
look, I know that, by the letter of the law, it was interference by UK. But no self-respecting basketball fan wants a close game decided by that kind of call, especially since the board slap and hand-through-the-rim didn't affect the actual shot.

No one wants a game to end like that - even if it benefits us.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:21 pm to
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Why just game ending situations?

Basket interference or goal tending any time during the game has just as much impact as the game ending incident. We are slowly gravitating toward every play will be reviewed.



Agreed, if basket interference and goal tending is reviewable it will need to be done all game long not justi in game winning situations. It does not occur that often so it would notimpede action that much to stop and review as they do charge / no charge depending on whether the defender is in the semi circle.

Fouls will remain judgement calls.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56200 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:32 pm to
We need less stoppage, we need fewer fouls..not more.

I am with Will Wade on this one, let the game flow and by the end of the year/night shite will even out.

We got away with one. Great. We should just smile and move on.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Why is offensive goaltending even a foul?


Most excellent question!
Really dumb rule considering you can dunk.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56200 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:33 pm to
neither the board slap or hand thru rim were fouls. The goaltending was, but was not called. Yay us.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98458 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Nice, maybe they would have really made the UK fans salty by calling the UK basket interference before the tip in


Well...you will note they did not say "offensive" basket interference.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:44 pm to
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The goaltending was, but was not called.


If you bother to look at the floor view of the play the ball bounced off the back rim and headed out of the cylinder. LSU player tapped the ball well off the rim.
The still shot from above the rim is the end of his follow through. It is not a picture of his initial contact.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20305 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:55 pm to
If this wasn't a Kentucky loss, with Kentucky hosting #1 tomorrow in what could have been a huge game, nothing is said. Not at the end of the game, not the past couple days, not this bullshite today.

I mean, this didn't even take a win away. Disallowing the basket leads to OT, not a Ky win. And LSU had figured out their defense, and had outscored them by 8 in the second half. As likely as not, LSU still wins.

So, frick the SEC on this.

Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5228 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:28 pm to
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UK made an infraction first, so I would think they would be the one being penalized.


I think this is accurate. I think basket interference ends the play, awards the points, then gives UK the ball with a fraction of a second left.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47638 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:36 pm to
You know damn well they wouldn’t even pretend to look at that. They would only consider the final tip. This is just pathetic and another example of certain teams always getting preferential treatment.
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