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re: Saban underachevied at LSU...here are the facts....

Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:21 am to
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 4:21 am to
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LM won his NC in jan, 2007


Er, no.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 5:19 am to
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First of all 9 wins with youth on the offensive line and inexperience at QB does not exactly translate into the "Sky is falling". Second, 2008 (see LSU 2008 below) was the year we


Huge difference with perrilloux having limited experience and an 18 year old freshman
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 6:19 am to
All one has to do to see the difference between a Saban coached LSU team and a Miles coached LSU team is watch a game. Watch LSU play in any random game from 2000-2004 in the years that Saban "underachieved". You tell me if you don't see a drastic difference in intensity and smarter football than any random game from 2005-2009.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 6:26 am to
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Watch LSU play in any random game from 2000-2004 in the years that Saban "underachieved". You tell me if you don't see a drastic difference in intensity and smarter football than any random game from 2005-2009.


Yea...there was a shitload of intensity against UAB, the blowouts we suffered through, and Iowa.

I will give you guys credit though....ya'lls selective memory ain't no joke....the best ive ever seen.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 6:42 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:05 am to
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Saban goes 10-3 in 2001


With one of the best offenses in LSU history, the SEC title, and our first top ten finish in years.

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Saban goes 8-5 in 2002


2002 wasn't as bad as people make it. This was the year our defense started playing excellent. Started off 6-1, then things went to shite when Mauck got hurt (yes it was Saban's fault for leaving him in) and James left the team. LSU was still a miracle pass away from making the SEC Championship. Although I do blame Saban for that Arkansas game, not for putting in a prevent defense (cause that was the right call) but for not going for the first down and running the clock out, kicking a FG instead and giving the ball back to Ark.

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Saban goes 9-3 in 2004.


One loss was to a 14-0 Auburn team and one was to a UGA team that executed perfectly, I don't think Saban cared about Iowa, he shouldn't have coached that game anyway. I also find it funny that you left out the 2003 National Championship year. To say Saban underachieved here is retarded. I'm not a Saban lover, but he changed the whole mindset of this football program and installed a winning attitude. Just because he wasn't perfect doesn't mean shite. The LSU program is a hell of a lot better now thanks to Saban. It's Miles job to maintain that winning attitude. I hope he is able to do it.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:05 am to
The difference between Saban and Miles is that with Saban, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team looked like shite, but a bunch of games that they dominated all 3 phases of the game.

With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33147 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:10 am to
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The difference between Saban and Miles is that with Saban, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team looked like shite, but a bunch of games that they dominated all 3 phases of the game.

With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT
This. The END. Thread pwned by RealityTiger.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:13 am to
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This. The END. Thread pwned by RealityTiger.


I bet it continues... Hell I thought this thread would die by page 6/7
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94733 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:13 am to


It's always funny to me when someone posts "FACT", like this comment has been written in Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Give me a fricking break. Just post "OPINION" and you'll be correct. That's a FACT. not an OPINION.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:16 am to
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2002 wasn't as bad as people make it. This was the year our defense started playing excellent. Started off 6-1, then things went to shite when Mauck got hurt (yes it was Saban's fault for leaving him in) and James left the team.


kinda like '08 when we started 5-1 after RP had been kicked off.

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LSU was still a miracle pass away from making the SEC Championship


We were also a "bluegrass miracle" from going 7-6.

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Just because he wasn't perfect doesn't mean shite.


hmmmm...ironic.

I just find it funny how ya'll give a pass to everyone except the man thats currently wearing purple and gold on the sidelines.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 8:17 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:19 am to
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With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT


bullshite. Actually its rare that any team dominates all 3 phases but i could bring up quite a few that Miles coached.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216012 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:23 am to
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The difference between Saban and Miles is that with Saban, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team looked like shite, but a bunch of games that they dominated all 3 phases of the game.

With Miles, you can only bring up a handful of games that the team dominated all 3 phases, and a bunch of games that they looked like shite (win or loss). - FACT


This. The END. Thread pwned by RealityTiger.






Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:26 am to
like i said....bullshite.

Selective memory at its finest
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 8:30 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:28 am to
Good God give it a rest
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33147 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:34 am to
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its rare that any team dominates all 3 phases but i could bring up quite a few that Miles coached.

Please do. Comic relief needed on a bad Monday.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33147 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:36 am to
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It's always funny to me when someone posts "FACT", like this comment has been written in Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Give me a fricking break. Just post "OPINION" and you'll be correct. That's a FACT. not an OPINION.


I never said it was a fact. It's his opinion, and a good one. I was just agreeing.
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:39 am to
you're ghey
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216012 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:39 am to
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but i could bring up quite a few that Miles coached.


This I gotta see.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:42 am to
off the top of my head...and not counting cupcakes...

Ole Miss '05
Miami '05

Arizona '06
Kentucky '06
ND '06

Virginia Tech '07
Ole Miss '07

Georgia Tech '08

Auburn '09

I could throw in Miss. St. in most of these years and Vandy in '05 but i don't know if you consider them a cupcake.....but im sure you'll find a way to diminish these wins somehow.



Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:52 am to
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I just find it funny how ya'll give a pass to everyone except the man thats currently wearing purple and gold on the sidelines.


No I'm fine with Miles (for now). It's Crowton that I think needs to be fired asap before he does more damage.
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