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Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:06 am to bbap
At the end of the day, he would have easily turned 2. People saying we don't know for certain he would have gotten Milam, don't watch enough baseball. He was dead to rights. Luckily, he either didn't have the situation in his head prior to getting the ball and had the wrong plan, or he panicked. Regardless, I'm glad it happened.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:06 am to Lester Earl
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But a step or two forward to gain ground is common on a play like that to a)get into better position to turn it b)touch the ball a split second sooner to ensure you beat the runner.
only problem with that is he did do that. he couldn't have fielded it more textbook. it wasn't until the terrible decision that things went south.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:08 am to bbap
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bruh....
Watch the replay man. The link I provided gives a great overhead view from the 1st base side.
I’m saying as soon as the ball was hit anywhere to his right he was going to 3rd with it for some reason. He’d predetermined that.
He clearly moves to his right to field it and never hesitated. Went straight to 3rd
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:09 am to RB10
I’m watching the replay now, and not only was he squared up, but he had to really pivot to make the turn to throw to third. To me his body looked in prime position to make the throw to second when he fielded it.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:09 am to RB10
i already said i watched the replay. he took one half step to his right and then used his feet to square up after that. three steps to his right? straight hyperbole.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:10 am to RB10
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I’m saying as soon as the ball was hit anywhere to his right he was going to 3rd with it for some reason. He’d predetermined that.
Which was a terrible predetermination given the situation. He choked.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:11 am to bbap
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i already said i watched the replay. he took one half step to his right and then used his feet to square up after that. three steps to his right? straight hyperbole.
You need to watch it again then. He even hops to his right before taking 3 steps to field it.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:13 am to kciDAtaE
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I feel like the announcers immediately jumped on it. Perhaps even during the play as he was throwing to 3rd.
What I’m saying is that, given the outcome, obviously he should have tried for the double play. I’m not even arguing that he shouldn’t have tried either way, it’s just that calling it the worst play of the game is a tad bit ridiculous, because we don’t know how that would turn out.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:15 am to VanRIch
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I’m watching the replay now, and not only was he squared up, but he had to really pivot to make the turn to throw to third. To me his body looked in prime position to make the throw to second when he fielded it.
Yep. He was in great position to field the ball that was hit to his right.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:16 am to OceanMan
quote:And what everyone else is saying is that given the situation and where the ball was hit, he should have tried for the double play regardless of the outcome. We don’t know what made him go to third, but everyone knew before the next pitch was even thrown what he should have done.
What I’m saying is that, given the outcome, obviously he should have tried for the double play.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:16 am to OceanMan
He is the starting shortstop for one of the best teams in the country and he was hit an ideal ball for a double play that he makes 99/100. It was absolutely the worst play of the game.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:17 am to MOT
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We don’t know what made him go to third, but everyone knew before the next pitch was even thrown what he should have done.
You can see it on his face right after he did it that he knows he should have turned two. Bro looked like he was contemplating life.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:18 am to RB10
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He was in great position to field the ball that was hit to his right.
Whether it was hit to his right or not, he was set and squared up when he fielded the ball, he wasn’t moving to his right with momentum.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:22 am to VanRIch
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Whether it was hit to his right or not, he was set and squared up when he fielded the ball, he wasn’t moving to his right with momentum.
I’ve never once said he wasn’t squared up. I said he moved to his right, which he did.
He actually made a great read on the ball to get there, and still went to 3rd. One of the stranger decisions I’ve seen.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:23 am to AZTiger7072
I wonder if the third baseman still could've thrown Milam out. Seems like Milam was slow to first.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:28 am to Tigershine
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wonder if the third baseman still could've thrown Milam out. Seems like Milam was slow to first.
He was probably a bit startled the ball even came to him.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:32 am to bbap
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he couldn't have fielded it more textbook.
To throw to 3rd base, yeah.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:33 am to RB10
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He was moving to his right so the easy play was 3rd, but the correct play was turning 2. He didn’t trust himself, panicked a little bit and then took the easy out at 3rd.
Theriot alludes to this when he says "you just want to make sure to get one out." I think Aloy panicked at the thought of trying to turn two and somehow throwing it away, with the runners moving up, thus making him the goat. So he took what he perceived as the low-risk out.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:35 am to RB10
Good point
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