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re: Rohan Davey: "Big Joe Will Break My Yardage... I'm TELLING You!"

Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:47 am to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10339 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:47 am to
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You can use arm strength. Meyer has the QBs compete on arm strength in practices, including halftime at the Spring games. Burrow and Haskins competed in '16 and '17. Burrow was the clear winner both years. Burrow throws with touch (except when heat is needed). Haskins throws as hard as he can on almost every throw. THAT impresses the cheerleaders and the know-nothing announcers. And the position battle had more to do with Day thinking he'd have Haskins for 3 more years. He was dumbfounded (live on TV) when he found out Haskins filed for the NFL draft.


literally every word in this post is a lie, so i'll save a little space by pointing them all out in one place.

- burrow doesnt have anywhere near the arm strength of haskins, and never beat him in any arm strength copmetition. but his arm is arguably the strongest of the 2019 class. - article from november

- louis riddick went into great detail yesterday about how haskins makes every throw, all the way down to intentionally placing the ball high and away in the red zone. haskins completed 70% of his passes this year, burrow completes 57%.

- by early november, everyone was talking about haskins going to the draft this year because of the weak qb class. after his complete dominance of michigan, it became a foregone conclusion. ryan day was not shocked to find out dwayne haskins was going to the nfl draft.

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Individual stats have far more validity in baseball.




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You clowns are abusive as hell (earl and fatbastard particularly).


if you and the rest of your merry band of bitches cant handle being called out on your stupidity, you shouldnt display it so proudly on such a consistent basis.

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You can't stand anyone questioning your idiotic opinions. Jerks!




you cant stand being called on your lack of football knowledge, stupidity with joe burrow, and overall dumbassery. you are the biggest bitch on this website.

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Since this thread has meandered - here is the OP again -


this thread was fine until you insisted on bringing your burrow stupidity into it. guess who the first person was to mention dwayne haskins in this thread. thats right, you dumbass.

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Here's a little fact for ya - in the passing game, a QB just throws it. Someone else has to catch it.


so burrow deserves no creedit for the last 3 games of 2018 or his high school stats. got it.

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In Burrow's case, these were WR's with very little overall experience, and even less experience working with Joe. And Joe had an OC & passing coordinators that featured slow developing mid-range to long passes (low percentage plays for any QB/WR)


burrow was in the same system haskins was last year and got beat out by him multiple times.

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In Haskins case, he had the most experienced WR room in the Big-10, and probably all of college ball. His OC featured short passes (high percentage plays) to fast WR's who killed it in yards after catch


haskins led the country in passes completed and completion percentage on balls that traveled over 30 yards in the air. you fail, again.

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Anyone who doesn't understand how the above situations enormously affect "stats", shouldn't be commenting on the passing game.


anyone who doesnt understand how qb progressions or rpo offenses work shouldnt be commenting on football.

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You're missing a piece of the puzzle. Day was offered several HC jobs at the end of'17 - including an SEC HC job - and OC spot with the NFL Titans.


none of that is relevant to the fact that joe burrow is not an elite quarterback.

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Day had mega-leverage. He agreed to stay as OC, but only if he could run the O HIS way. He wanted to run a pro-style passing game with some RPO on the side. He wanted NOTHING to do with the read/option. And he did not want to risk having Meyer take over the offense once the season got rolling (which actually happened for a couple games after the Purdue loss/fiasco)


so youre saying day wanted a better passing qb, so thats why he chose haskins. yet you argued in this thread that burrow is a better than haskins.

dont ever stop being you, dumbass.

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Day also thought Haskins would stay 3 years. Day was shocked when Haskins declared, and he was vocal about it.


besides being irrelevat, this is still an absolute lie. everyone expected haskins to enter the draft after the michigan game this year. nobody was caught off guard by him declaring.

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Don't know why it is so hard for guys to fathom Meyer having 2 top-5 QBs on his roster at the same time. For instance, Meyer had Cam Newton and Tebow at the same time. Newton eventually went #1, and Tebow was the 2nd QB taken in the 2010 draft.


literally no one is saying its impossible to have 2 top 5 qbs on the roster at the same time. we're all correctly saying that joe burrow is not a top 5 quarterback.

dont know why you keep trying to revert back to meyer when youve already said he deserves no credit for burrow's development.

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OR Day's wet dream of a pro-style offense got CRUSHED by Purdue. 73 pass attempts, and still couldnt beat a 6-7 team? (which should have been a 5-8 team)


earlier you said after purdue is when meyer removed rpo's from the offense because haskins wasnt using them, and "by gawd he was going to throw it"

now youre saying the purdue game is what day thought of as a pro style offense.

youre a complete fricking joke. even ohio st fans are embarrassed by you and your stupidity.

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There does seem to be a small genetic strain of Tigers who are hell-bent to be considered second rate


yea, its people like you that are so thrilled with mediocrity that you think joe burrow is an elite qb.

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10339 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:49 am to
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You started this shite. You should strive to sober the frick up and stop being a shithead on the internet. fricking lush.


ben accusing someone else of starting shite. ben is lying again.

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Either dispute what I said asswipe or shut the frick up. You can't dispute it because it was all true.


ben, tell us why teams like arkansas, ull, and the citadel were able to have more success against alabama than lsu, despite having far less talented offensive lines and wrs than lsu.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:06 am to
Damn! Dropped the hammer on ole jeaux in that post.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 3:14 am to
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Damn! Dropped the hammer on ole jeaux in that post.
Yeah. Except he's full of shite.

Any Buckeye who watches the Spring game knows Haskins never beat Burrow in the long throw competition. The long throw is a fan favorite. People even bet on it. Close to 100,000 fans show up for Spring game.

In the 2017 long throw, Haskins came in 4th. Cardale Jones was 1st (former players can compete) ; Darrin Lee was 2nd (high school QB - LB in college and NFL); Burrow was 3rd; and, again, Haskins was 4th. JT Barrett was 5th.

Burrow beat Haskins in 2016 too.

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The dude is looney tunes. Just makes shite up. His first point was such a stupid lie that I didn't bother reading any more.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 3:53 am
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 4:26 am to
No he won’t.
LSU fans are the most gullible group on earth. Every year we fall for the same thing.
Burrow will finish middle Of the pack in the sec at best.

LSU will lose three games at least.

And this will be the norm until O and really Alleva are gone.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:29 am to
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LSU will lose three games at least


I don't see 3 losses on that schedule. I see maybe 1.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104136 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:37 am to
3 losses for this team would be big trouble, Ben. I just can't imagine losing 3 games with this much talent.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:42 am to
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And this will be the norm until O and really Alleva are gon






Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:47 am to
Always loved Rohan St. Patrick Davey. From Florida by way of Jamaica. Always thought he was one of the most underrated quarterbacks we’ve had.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:29 am to
"Haskin leads the nation in throws under 10 yards"

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Dwayne Haskins is playing great, but his numbers are inflated because of his playmakers. Is that what you're seeing on tape, Zac?"

"Yeah, I think so," Robinson said. "When you look at just how this offense is built, it's just a quick-pass-striking offense, get the balls in the hands of the playmakers quick and let them make plays. But where you look at where the yards have come, Haskins leads the nation in throws under 10 yards. In terms of overall yardage, he has 1,300 of his 1,919 passing yards on throws under 10 yards."


This article is from October, but the quick-hitter pass game stayed about the same - maybe even a slightly higher ratio of short passes in the rest of the season.


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This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 10:37 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78215 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:33 am to
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OR Day's wet dream of a pro-style offense got CRUSHED by Purdue. 73 pass attempts, and still couldnt beat a 6-7 team? (which should have been a 5-8 team)


They went 11-1

1 bad game doesn’t make you change something that works 11 other games

He went with the best QB.

If Joe and Dwaybe both could throw as well Joe would be the starting QB, because Joe bring the additional element of his legs.

No offense is 80% deep balls and if it is it probably isn’t very good.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 11:48 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:20 pm to
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They went 11-1
Right. And that pathetic loss KILLED Ohio States almost guaranteed spot in the Playoffs.


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1 bad game doesn’t make you change something that works 11 other games
Really? Read this article from a senior Ohio State football beat writer (from the week after the Purdue face-plant):

"Ohio State's new plan: Death to the RPO -- Doug Lesmerises"

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This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 12:28 pm
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