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Points per game, last 3 seasons

Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted by emanresu
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm
2015 (Les) - 34.4ppg
2016 (Les/O) - 28.3ppg
2017 (O) - 28.1ppg
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 9:04 pm
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm to
that’s what my math shows too
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:35 pm to
Please show your work.

No credit given.
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:42 pm to
2017 (28.1)
Posted by OneFifty
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:45 pm to
Not defending Canada’s production but I know that he wanted to run more tempo but couldn’t because of the skinny numbers on both lines. I think tempo could have generated 3 to 5 more points per game on average and kickers missed a shite load of kicks. So let’s say we average 7 more points a game which isn’t outlandish... that’s 35 ppg
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

2015 (Les) - 34.4ppg


Playing three non-defensive teams really helped.


vs E Michigan 44-22
vs W Kentucky 48-20
vs Texas Tech* 56-27


They didn't score a whole lot starting with Bama until Tech in the Advocare V100 Texas Bowl game.

@ #4 Alabama L 30-16
vs Arkansas L 31-14
@ #22 Ole Miss L 38-17
vs Texas A&M W 19-7
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:53 pm to
We missed a lot of points from the kicking game, but the red zone offense also has something to do with this.

Look at the missed FGs in the A&M game.

Look at how many times LSU tried FGs instead of getting the TD in the A&M game.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3259 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:54 pm to
Points per game is a meaningless way to evaluate an offense. Also need to know field position and turnovers. We did not generate many turnovers this year that placed us in immediate scoring position. 2011 defense was great at that. This year, not so much. Not sure about 2015.

That said, our red zone offense was not the best this year. Especially early in the year.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:01 pm to
Saying PPG is meaningless is going a bit far
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:07 pm to
"Numbers suck." - Butthead
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Saying PPG is meaningless is going a bit far


You are correct.

However, I think the offense did try to protect the thin defensive line and hold onto the ball instead of going into fast-paced, point scoring mode. Plus, the other point I made. Points is one measure, but not necessarily one that is solely indicative of success.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:09 pm to
Yeah... that’s not what I saw all season.

Don’t think we were protecting the defense vs Troy or Miss st
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8419 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:15 pm to
Now let's compare the amount of future NFL players on each year's offense.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:26 pm to
The devil is in the details.

Now show the PPG vs top opponents.

Less Smiles style of O would put up giant rushing yards and numbers on the scoreboard against Light House for the Blind and Little Mother Marys Ring-Around-the-Rosies but when he put that one dimensional shite-show against a team with a decent defense it shite the bed AND the bathtub.

Canadas offense put up much better numbers against strong opponents.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

aying PPG is meaningless is going a bit far


Its meaningless as a comparison stat without more information.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Playing three non-defensive teams really helped.



Go look at the defensive numbers of our opponents since October of last year
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Its meaningless as a comparison stat without more information.
There is plenty of information though. It was a comparison of ppg with between two coaches within a similar time frame, similar talent level, close to identical schedule....

Not meaningless heh...
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:12 pm to
It is cherry-picking a bit though.

I like to look at just regular season SEC games for standard reference among seasons, and going by that, you get the following for the past 6 seasons:

2012: 180 (22.5)
2013: 258 (32.3)
2014: 153 (19.1)
2015: 212 (26.5)
2016: 218 (27.3)
2017: 209 (26.1)

Not great, but nothing earth-shattering there either. Everybody knows LSU's offense had several limitations this season. Given the context, the offense performance was decent.

Of the past 17 seasons, LSU has stayed within a relatively tight range of 204-220 points (25.5-27.5 ppg) in conference games for 8 of those seasons. That includes each of the last 3 seasons.

SEC title seasons typically see big jumps--179 to 228 (2002 to 2003); 220 to 298 (2006 to 2007); or 212 to 280 (2010 to 2011). Hopefully LSU can find the right QB to help produce one of those jumps in the near future.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

It is cherry-picking a bit though.
It might be. But I think if you consider the context of the last three years, where our head coach was fired due to the anemic offense...It is relevant to compare relative stats.

That said, obviously the book isn't closed on the current regime and we will have a lot more data going forward. I think using only the SEC games is a bit misleading if you consider that we lost to an awful OOC team with anemic offense.
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