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re: Phil Simms scouts Burrow

Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:51 am to
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33979 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:51 am to
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Phil Simms "Joe Burrow doesn't have an elite arm". I turned it off as soon as that was said.

Phil Simms is the greatest QB to have ever played, according to Phil Simms.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:51 am to
THIS !!!
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:54 am to
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I don't care how Simms sugar coats it. Simms clearly said that Joe, "doesn't have an elite arm."


And Simms is right! Why are you butthurt over it? Jamarcus had elite arm strength and what the hell did that do for him?

Simms and little Simms both praised Burrow in the interview, geesh!
Posted by Tiger_Style
The N.O.
Member since Apr 2019
808 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:55 am to
Phil and his son are little botch arse haters. They think down-playing everyone else makes them look good. Phil was a tough player, but his son was an absolute pussy out there.
Posted by LSU615
Member since Sep 2014
2284 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:56 am to
There’s a long list of Hall of Fame quarterbacks that don’t have elite arms. Joe Burrow has more than enough arm to play in the NFL. If that’s the only complaint they can find at all on him, Cincinnati needs to turn in their card right now.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:57 am to
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I’ve watched Joe Burrow throw 40 plus scrambling left and throwing back across the field and hit receivers in stride multiple times.
Because TV announcers confuse throwing bullets on every pass with "arm strength".

Haskins threw every pass as hard as he *could. However, Burrow beat Haskins in long throw competitions every time they went head-to-head (half times every OSU Spring Game)

*the way Urban Meyer coached him to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:01 am to
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Here are the qbs I can recall that were considered to have elite arm strength when they were drafted:

Bradshaw

Elway (won at the twilight of his career - arm strength had deteriorated)

Favre

I might have missed one or two but it's pretty far down the list of super bowl winning attributes.
Kurt Warner, Dan Marino, Randall Cunningham, Jeff George... just to name a few more.

Peyton Manning I think too.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 9:03 am
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:03 am to
Have you ever seen when Phil Simms ranks QBs. He constantly shits on Brees. He doesn’t know anything.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15525 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:05 am to
A little better arm strength than Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, and Alex Smith. No way JB has the zip of Manning, Brady, and Brees in their prime.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:06 am to
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Peyton Manning I think too.


having a cannon isn't a must in the NFL, Burrow is perfectly suited to have success in the NFL, Peyton Manning won his last Super Bowl pretty much without an arm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:09 am to
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Have you ever seen when Phil Simms ranks QBs. He constantly shits on Brees. He doesn’t know anything.
Simms is stuck in the 1980's (and before)

He can't relate to the new Spread offenses, and the skillsets needed to run them.

There's a reason Coach E brought in Brady. E had no clue about how to run the new Spreads (and E freely admits it)

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
102972 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:11 am to
Brees or Romo didn't have elite arms either. They did fine.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Romo


quote:

They did fine.


wouldn't go that far, his legacy with the Cowboys is his last contract, would probably make a good OC, should never have set foot on the field as an NFL qb, imo
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101274 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:14 am to
I would submit that there is a base level of arm strength one must have to be an “elite” quarterback and that anything beyond that is pretty meaningless, or at least nothing more than marginally meaningful. A simple glance at “elite” quarterbacks historically proves this out, as illustrated here by others.

If anything, I would submit that those on the higher end of arm strength, more often than not tend to be somewhat reckless gunslinger types rather than elite quarterbacks.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:16 am to
I disagree. He has the same zip as Manning and Brees.

I don’t know why anyone even cares. Arguably the biggest arm to ever go into the NFL was also the biggest bust. LSU fans should be familiar with our previous #1 overall draft pick QB.
Posted by Jmwtigre
Tyler, TX
Member since Oct 2015
1232 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:18 am to

Ahhh, does Brees have an "elite" arm?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:21 am to
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Manning


before he got hurt, he could hurt people with that arm
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by Jmwtigre
Tyler, TX
Member since Oct 2015
1232 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:22 am to

So, does "elite" mean Jamarcus Russel is a better prospect???

Lot of hot air.
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1700 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Phil Simms "Joe Burrow doesn't have an elite arm".


Jamarcus Russell and Jeff George had elite arms

Joe Montana did not have an elite arm.

CASE CLOSED
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:09 am to
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Who has elite arm strenth? Just for the sake argument.

I remember someone who had it, got drafted, got paid. Spent his weekends watching blank film and enjoyed an occasional purple beverage.
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