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re: Per Ben Love: Fournett's camp is starting to have issues with his carry count.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:14 pm to uway
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:14 pm to uway
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ere is no comparison between the monetary benefit these athletes provide for the NCAA and the monetary benefit they get in return.
The NCAA is one possible way to develop and vet talent for professional sports. It's not the most efficient way and certainly not the only way.
You can't even pretend to not understand how someone like Fournette is getting shortchanged.
And no he can't quit without doing major damage to his earnings potential, because the NCAA is an oligarchy.
I understand why people try to justify the system that brings them so much entertainment, but it's really not even debatable in the case of someone like Fournette.
If he played for bama you wouldn't be saying any of this.
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:17 pm to uway
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What is sad about it?
It wouldn't be sad if a professional athlete and his loved ones were concerned about this.
Devonta Freeman's camp is concerned that he's getting too many carries.
Eddie Lacy's and Marshawn Lynch's too. Frank Gore's camp is livid and Matt Forte's is fuming.
None of them can believe what just happened to Jamaal Charles. Travesty really.
Tom Brady's wife is pissed about his OL protection and JJ Watt's agent is wringing his hands over concussions.
Where does it stop?
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:19 pm to uway
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There is no comparison between the monetary benefit these athletes provide for the NCAA and the monetary benefit they get in return.
The NCAA is one possible way to develop and vet talent for professional sports. It's not the most efficient way and certainly not the only way.
You can't even pretend to not understand how someone like Fournette is getting shortchanged.
And no he can't quit without doing major damage to his earnings potential, because the NCAA is an oligarchy.
I understand why people try to justify the system that brings them so much entertainment, but it's really not even debatable in the case of someone like Fournette
You're 100% right, but this is a much bigger issue than just Fournette.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:27 pm to MightyYat
Guess they shouldn't let him start playing football if they were worried about him getting injured. Injuries happen in football, not a lot that can be done about it. Some guys get hurt, some don't.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:35 pm to atltiger6487
I don't know about the rest of you, but I care far more about LSU winning football games than I do how much a current player or former player is going to make in the NFL.
I'm not ashamed to say that one bit.
They don't pay my bills.
I'm not ashamed to say that one bit.
They don't pay my bills.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:43 pm to bwallcubfan
The Heisman, as nice as that would be, will not determine his draft pick status.
This young man still has another year to play before going pro and I could easily see them worrying about him getting worn out BEFORE he even gets to the pros.
To be honest, the Heisman seems to benefit the schools more than the actual player.
Don't get me wrong, the player is forever immortalized with a very select few but as far as it on a professional sports player level, it does not seem to matter as much.
Just my two cents.
This young man still has another year to play before going pro and I could easily see them worrying about him getting worn out BEFORE he even gets to the pros.
To be honest, the Heisman seems to benefit the schools more than the actual player.
Don't get me wrong, the player is forever immortalized with a very select few but as far as it on a professional sports player level, it does not seem to matter as much.
Just my two cents.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:47 pm to MightyYat
frick his camp son! Give him the ball and let him mow some bitches down!!
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:49 pm to JAF65
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This young man still has another year to play before going pro and I could easily see them worrying about him getting worn out BEFORE he even gets to the pros.
When you were 19, did you wear out easily?
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:53 pm to MightyYat
The Chubb thing was a freak occurrence, yes it happens, but as stated it happened on the first carry of that game.
If you are that worried about it then don't take anymore handoffs and quit football.
If you are that worried about it then don't take anymore handoffs and quit football.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:54 pm to Revelator
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When you were 19, did you wear out easily?
I was not being beat on by 300# gorillas, so no I did not.
Just stating a fact on the NFL life span of RB's that's all.
I'm not saying he will be shot but I can see their concern if he continues to run the ball THAT many times for another season and a half that his professional football life could be cut short that's all.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:55 pm to Jack Bauer7
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they sat him most of the 4th in the carolina game,
They actually sat him for ALL of the 4th and Most of the Third. He has sat out of nearly 4 quarters of action through 5 games which make his stats that much more amazing.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:55 pm to MightyYat
Total made up media crock. But I wouldn't mind saving a little for the 4th. And I think having other backs in first half may loosen up D for passing more. However, we've only trailed by 3 points once and that for not very long, so why mess with a winner.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:06 pm to uway
quote:
There is no comparison between the monetary benefit these athletes provide for the NCAA and the monetary benefit they get in return.
The NCAA is one possible way to develop and vet talent for professional sports. It's not the most efficient way and certainly not the only way.
You can't even pretend to not understand how someone like Fournette is getting shortchanged.
And no he can't quit without doing major damage to his earnings potential, because the NCAA is an oligarchy.
I understand why people try to justify the system that brings them so much entertainment, but it's really not even debatable in the case o
If there was a more "efficient" way the athletes would have exploited it by now. Fournette is USING the college platform to increase his stock by displaying his skills. This same increase in leverage can't be realized in any other public forum provided by the college program.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:30 pm to boxcar willie
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that is total horse shite. Williams is at least the equal of Derrick Henry who IS a Primary RB for a Top level SEC PROGRAM. Williams runs much harder than Henry, has better vision, and is just as fast. If Williams were at any other program in the SEC, other than Gerogia (prior to Chubb getting Hurt), he would be the starter.
I REALLY like Williams as a short yardage, tough runner. However, his absolute ceiling is Stevan Ridley- a rock sold and dependable power back. He isn't going to break tons of huge runs. He will crank out tough yards behind a great O Line that can open holes. He sure as he'll isn't Derrick Henry, and wouldn't start over him. I'm sorry, but you are reaching badly here.
Guys like Fournette and Guice, and Hill before them, are balanced. They have speed and power. They are versatile. Williams just isn't the same kind of back. Considering that most of the rest of the SEC is running offenses with faster tempos, I can GUARANTEE YOU that Williams wouldn't be starting anywhere else, other than maybe Vandy. You really think Auburn, Kentucky, A&M, or Mizzou would just plug him in and go? That would be the ultimate square peg in a round hole. He fits well here, Arkansas, or UGA, and he wouldn't start for any of those three programs.
He will get plenty of carries over his career here, but mark my words. He may start one day because of Miles' love of upperclassmen with great team attitudes. But he will never average the most carries or yards on the team. Fournette will definitely be gone, and Guice may be too, but he will get passed up by the blue chip backs we will continue to bring in.
None of this is meant as an insult to the guy. He is making the most of what he has, and nails his role. He knew what he was in for when he signed along with Fournette. He knew they were recruiting Guice, Brosette, and Ducre. You needs guys like Williams to fill out your roster, provide reliable depth, and to do the little things. He does them very well. Hats off to him. Let's just be realistic.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:35 pm to SammyTiger
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But it happened on his first carry.
Its a dangerous game, freak accidents happen whenever they want.
This. Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:40 pm to jbraua
quote:and suffering leads to losing your legs. Wait, so Chubb is Darth Vader?
This. Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:49 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
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Total made up media crock
OK - Did Ben actually write anything on this, or was it just a comment in passing. No tweets, etc, that I can find.
Sounds like Tigerdroppings is the biggest reporter here
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:51 pm to MightyYat
blackjackjackson 1-7-14 "buga will never redshirt. He gone in 3 no matter what! probalbly 2!"
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:51 pm to misey94
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You really think Auburn, Kentucky, A&M, or Mizzou would just plug him in and go?
Well Mizzou is in desperate need of a running game. Wouldn't be ridiculous for him to start there.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:53 pm to c on z
I think Ben love made this up
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