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passing game coordinator and an offensive coordinator

Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by craycray
S. Lake Tahoe
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:42 pm
why do teams need both
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:42 pm to
They dont
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:43 pm to
If E is going to stay on as an offensive advisor, you don’t.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70088 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:43 pm to
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They dont


This.

But sometimes it's title inflation to justify a raise for an assistant that needs to be kept around.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:46 pm to
Just as curious, why did we need a safety and CB coach?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70088 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:47 pm to
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Just as curious, why did we need a safety and CB coach?


To get Joe Burrow.
Posted by GeauxPG
Member since Jan 2019
118 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Just as curious, why did we need a safety and CB coach?


Because Aranda wanted him.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:50 pm to
The Bill Busch hire was to appease Aranda to keep him from going to A&M.

To answer the OP you don’t need one but LSU didn’t invent the position. Passing game coordinators and running game coordinators are all over college football. In some ways it’s like being associate head coach. It comes with slightly more responsibilities as a position coach to justify paying them more money. I don’t have an issue with it. More than one mind coming up with a game plan isn’t a bad idea.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14392 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:51 pm to
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To get Joe Burrow.

That wasn't the initial reason. Not sure why Corey can't handle all DB coaching duties.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26644 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:55 pm to
Lots of schools have this. Some have a run game coordinator.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15329 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:00 pm to
IMO we need an OC, a PGC, an RGC, and an Associate HC, along with all standard position coaches. They each need to be making upwards of $1.5 million to retain them. It’s the only way we can compete with Saban.
Posted by Tiger Don 318
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
722 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Just as curious, why did we need a safety and CB coach?


It was one of the perks to sway aranda from going to A&M. Busch might’ve been the best recruiter on the staff and was the sole reason burrow ended up here. He and Raymond didn’t get along from what I heard. Kinda glad Raymond is coaching the whole secondary again because safety play left me with more to desire...
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27025 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:13 pm to
Aranda wanted busch
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18131 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:16 pm to
they don't. It's for an OC that doesn't know what they're doing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66343 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:18 pm to
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Just as curious, why did we need a safety and CB coach?


They are technically two different positions.

And they are very different

It’s still more of a luxery
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 4:19 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:19 pm to
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why do teams need both


Because the passing game is way more complex than it was 10 yrs ago or even 5 yrs ago. Brady used to spend every Monday looking at NFL scoring plays and implementing them into the offense. OC does not have time for that. That kind of effort is what makes you always a step ahead.

When you are running a 3man route with max protect it is not much to keep up with but running a 5 man route matrix and communicating that to the QB in between series is more than one mans brain will process efficiently.

Also if you watch the OC and PGC in the booth the analysts and the PGC are feeding the OC plays to call for down and distance. If you want to run HUNH you dont have time to look at the play sheet, watch the defense, and call adjustments.
Posted by craycray
S. Lake Tahoe
Member since Jan 2018
585 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:25 pm to
GetmorewithLes

i like that answer, that makes sense. thank you
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10505 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:25 pm to
It’s just what you do when you said you’d hire the best OC possible but instead promoted your TE coach who hadn’t called plays in decades.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66343 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:28 pm to
Who is Alabama’s PGC?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 4:45 pm to
You can call them what you want. Bama has 5 Off coaches and 5 Def coaches with ST as a part of one of the Off coaches duties. Sark coaches from the sideline so I am not sure who is in the booth but I guarantee you with that monster analyst staff they have they have a bunch of people feedind Sark play info.

We have 5 Off and 4 Def with a full ST coach.
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