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One of the advantages of hiring young and successful coordinators
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:44 am
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:44 am
One day O will retire. The more cooordinators that we bring in like Aranda and Brady that have massive success then move on to other jobs, the more future potential HC's we have.
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:52 am to Mando
I really like David Reeves ...UAB
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:42 am to Mando
Why does this matter?
Nick Saban and Les Miles never coached at LSU before becoming head coach won national championships and O was an assistant before but didn’t leave and go somewhere else before coming back to be head coach.
Nick Saban and Les Miles never coached at LSU before becoming head coach won national championships and O was an assistant before but didn’t leave and go somewhere else before coming back to be head coach.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:57 am to geauxtigers33
It matters. Let’s say Brady becomes a. NFL rising star and at some point down the road O decides he’s won three championships and has nothing left to prove. Might think we’d have a chance at Brady or Aranda given their history with LSU.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:47 am to Mando
Don’t agree with the loyalty aspect.
Coaching is a profession, and while friendships and hatreds exist, opportunity and availability are the prime drivers.
Loyalty is to people not institutions.
Coaching is a profession, and while friendships and hatreds exist, opportunity and availability are the prime drivers.
Loyalty is to people not institutions.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:55 am to DamnStrong1860
U do know Brady did not like recruiting a whole lot right? Was not his thing even tho was very good at it so ur explanation on brady has no value there. In his contract said he can't leave lsu for another college,didn't say anything bout NFL. He left NFL for more money which he and LSU verbally agreed to and his contract did not say he would be a offensive coordinator at Lsu. He left LSU for 1) more money, 2) higher ranking title being an offensive coordinator and 3) did not like recruiting.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:05 am to geauxtigers33
It matters because the more options you have, the more likely one of them is willing to make a move.
Coaches prefer to go somewhere where they know the lay of the land.
It’s one reason people were saying a California and Ohio guy, Tom Herman, was comfortable going to Texas over LSU, he had been a GA there.
Saban asked his OC at Michigan State, who was at LSU the previous year, why LSU had several unsuccessful coaches in what looked to him to be a fertile recruiting area and he told him, “they just need a good coach, go there and you will win big”.
Saban trusted this guy’s opinion plus based on his wife’s scouting trip he took the job.
He famously said in an interview that he almost quit his first day at LSU after seeing how bad the practice facilities and weight room in the stadium was compared to the indoor practice facilities he had at Mich State.
It will be an advantage for LSU come that day.
Coaches prefer to go somewhere where they know the lay of the land.
It’s one reason people were saying a California and Ohio guy, Tom Herman, was comfortable going to Texas over LSU, he had been a GA there.
Saban asked his OC at Michigan State, who was at LSU the previous year, why LSU had several unsuccessful coaches in what looked to him to be a fertile recruiting area and he told him, “they just need a good coach, go there and you will win big”.
Saban trusted this guy’s opinion plus based on his wife’s scouting trip he took the job.
He famously said in an interview that he almost quit his first day at LSU after seeing how bad the practice facilities and weight room in the stadium was compared to the indoor practice facilities he had at Mich State.
It will be an advantage for LSU come that day.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:10 am to cajunguy
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U do know Brady did not like recruiting a whole lot right? Was not his thing even tho was very good at it so ur explanation on brady has no value there. In his contract said he can't leave lsu for another college,didn't say anything bout NFL. He left NFL for more money which he and LSU verbally agreed to and his contract did not say he would be a offensive coordinator at Lsu. He left LSU for 1) more money, 2) higher ranking title being an offensive coordinator and 3) did not like recruiting.
Do you even reading comprehension bro? The OP was talking about young up and coming coordinators generally. I used Brady as an example but could have easily just made someone up. At the end of the day, the point is the same. We’ve got a better chance at pulling a talented coach away from his current job if that coach was formerly at LSU and enjoyed his time here. Won’t always work but it doesn’t hurt.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:12 am to Gaspergou202
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Don’t agree with the loyalty aspect.
ain't no loyalty, or much ethics for that matter, in the coaching community, it's a pretty sleazy, very nepotistic racket
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:00 am to DamnStrong1860
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Might think we’d have a chance at Brady or Aranda given their history with LSU.
If you’re willing to pay a coach more than anyone else is, you usually have a pretty good chance of hiring him regardless of their history.
The exceptions are guys who are nearing retirement, and/or in a situation like Ensminger was in when promoted back to OC in that he stood to make more money long term by remaining at LSU than he would have by accepting a salary increase to coach at another school because of his pension situation.
It’s not a perfect example because to my knowledge he wasn’t offered a better paying job elsewhere, but even if he was he would have declined it so he could maximize the value of his pension.
For younger coaches, it’s naive to expect them to be loyal to anyone offering them less than the market will bear. If LSU at some point in time wants to bring either back as a head coach, we’ll have to outbid everyone else. Money talks.
ETA: Jimbo is a perfect example. Was a young, up-and-coming coordinator at LSU who spurned us for a division rival because they were willing to pay more.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:16 am to geauxtigers33
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Why does this matter?
Nick Saban and Les Miles never coached at LSU before becoming head coach won national championships and O was an assistant before but didn’t leave and go somewhere else before coming back to be head coach.
We also had gone a few decades with only sporadic success prior to Saban.
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