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OL Depth Chart
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:44 am
How do you guys think it'll shake out?
LT: Will Campbell, Cam Wire
LG: Tre'Mond Shorts, Emery jones,
C: Marlon Martinez, Charles Turner,
RG: Anthony Bradford, Miles Frazier
RT: Garrett Dellinger, Marcus Dumerville
I am thinking that this is the OL we see game 1 and then Emery Jones and Miles Frazier will be given opportunities to rotate in and earn PT. Maybe Dellinger starts at C instead of RT and in that case, Cam Wire probably starts at RT. I am also giving Bradford the start at RG because of much raw talent he seems to have but he could be replaced by Jones, Frazier, or Martinez if Delly plays C.
LT: Will Campbell, Cam Wire
LG: Tre'Mond Shorts, Emery jones,
C: Marlon Martinez, Charles Turner,
RG: Anthony Bradford, Miles Frazier
RT: Garrett Dellinger, Marcus Dumerville
I am thinking that this is the OL we see game 1 and then Emery Jones and Miles Frazier will be given opportunities to rotate in and earn PT. Maybe Dellinger starts at C instead of RT and in that case, Cam Wire probably starts at RT. I am also giving Bradford the start at RG because of much raw talent he seems to have but he could be replaced by Jones, Frazier, or Martinez if Delly plays C.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:47 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Is Fitzgerald West not in the mix for center?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:48 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Campbell, Frazier, and Shorts are starters. The rest is open.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:49 am to CatfishJohn
quote:
Is Fitzgerald West not in the mix for center?
I highly doubt an undersized DL converting to OL is in the mix to start in the SEC as a true freshman. I think he will one day be in the mix, but this year. I have heard that the 3 competing for C are Turner, Martinez, and Delinger.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:50 am to Springlake Tiger
quote:
Campbell, Frazier, and Shorts are starters. The rest is open.
From what I have read, Frazier is a little on the raw side so I wouldn't put him as a guaranteed starter. He may win a job, but I think he will have to earn it by beating out other guys.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:50 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Fair enough. Fitzy has the perfect frame and strength for center though. I hope he develops well there.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:58 am to CatfishJohn
This is the SEC you don`t want 2 truefreshman starting
on the OL.There would be to many mistakes made at crutial
times to win games. Bear Bryant once said for every
freshman you start there is 1 loss. Freshman are exactly
what they are ,inexperienced and are learning.That don`t
cut it in the SEC.
on the OL.There would be to many mistakes made at crutial
times to win games. Bear Bryant once said for every
freshman you start there is 1 loss. Freshman are exactly
what they are ,inexperienced and are learning.That don`t
cut it in the SEC.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:20 am to CatfishJohn
quote:
Is Fitzgerald West not in the mix for center?
As a true freshman definitely not
Center has really big responsibilities beyond just snapping the ball. Hard to trust any true freshman with that.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:03 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I think it’ll be:
LT: Campbell, Wire
LG: Shorts, Jones
C: Dellinger, Turner
RG: Bradford or Martinez
RT: Frazier, Dumervile
LT: Campbell, Wire
LG: Shorts, Jones
C: Dellinger, Turner
RG: Bradford or Martinez
RT: Frazier, Dumervile
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:19 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Frazier was the #1 OL in the portal. I’d bet he was promised a starting spot.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:36 pm to Springlake Tiger
quote:He was promised a fair shot . A little head start, but a fair shot is what he was promised.
Frazier was the #1 OL in the portal. I’d bet he was promised a starting spot.
That being said, that head start is dependent on outworking Bradford, Kardell, and Martinez due to experience and footwork/balance. He's definitely in the lead.
Noting nothing is settled yet, and it will be a little while yet. Reference Davis' "complacency" comments. There are frontrunners, no one is safe- yet.
I think this is how we start the season:
LT: Wire with Campbell playing alot. Noting Wire has experience on both sides.
LG: Shorts
C: Waiting on the leaves to change. Somebody not named Turner has to step up. (Martinez likely, Bradford possibly, Dellinger longshot a' la Pocic)
RG: Frazier
RT: Dellinger out working Dumervil and Martinez at C? Dellinger is fully rehabbed and is a sponge learning from some decent and some terrible outings last year (injury was a factor). Dellinger was thrown into the fire too early; it has a payoff likely this year.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:46 pm to I20goon
quote:
LT: Wire with Campbell playing alot. Noting Wire has experience on both sides.
If Campbell is gonna play alot, I'd rather the coaching staff just trust the kid and start him. Show the kid that you have confidence in him. You can always put Wire in if Campbell has a rough time out the gate.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:05 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:A) Wire has turned into a good OT; took awhile, but he got there. He's done well in games... under fire.
If Campbell is gonna play alot, I'd rather the coaching staff just trust the kid and start him. Show the kid that you have confidence in him. You can always put Wire in if Campbell has a rough time out the gate.
B) Campbell will have to be tested under fire. Some of his playing time will depend on matchups. They aren't going to want him going against the best of the best in the SEC. The not so best he will get time against.
OT is a very technical position and at the same time requires brute force and agility to make those techniques work. If, under fire, he starts getting his lunch eaten he will start to lose those techniques and take physical shortcuts such as guessing. And it will get worse from there because when you start doing that as an OT the best of the best will take advantage of it and use it against you. The name of the game is to progress physically where you maintain your technique without having to resort to those shortcuts/guessing. That takes time. On the way there they don't want to risk losing that training. It will happen at times, but you don't want full games much less a whole season of it.
This is why, sometimes, you see raw OTs start the season doing well and steadily get worse. As the season progress they lose technique and, simultaneously, that lack of technique is showing up on film more and more often. Taking the injury out this is part of why Dellinger seemed to regress last year.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:39 pm to I20goon
I thought Dumerville was gonna be a can’t miss stud for us; I’m ready for him to mature and take the next step up. Or it could just be wishful thinking
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:39 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I realize it was a difficult match up for him but it was tough to watch Dellinger get dominated every play in the A&M game. It would also be surprising for Frazier not get an opportunity to start. I thought he was supposed to be the best transfer.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 4:55 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
What about Xavier Hill?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 5:08 pm to tigers32
Was just about to ask the same thing, a lot of early spring reports said he was one of the best O-lineman and the only one to sometimes contain Maason Smith
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:34 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Frazier is a starter day one. Period.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:35 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
We have the making of a very solid/good offensive line ????
Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:38 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I remember the past off season reports of Bradford being a stud. Then the season rolled around and he was nowhere to be found
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