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NCAA Tournament hitting vs Regular Season Numbers - Who stepped up and faded
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:13 pm
Regular season numbers include the SEC Tournament.
NCAAT v. Reg
Batting Average
.281 v .257 - Pap - 9.4% increase
.297 v .279 - Smith - 6.7% increase
.333 v .314 - Watson - 6.3% increase
.259 v .250 - Slaughter - 3.7% increase
.275 v .315 - Kramer - -12.8% decrease
.260 v .333 - Duplantis - -22.0% decrease
.216 v .291 - Jordan - -25.8% decrease
.227 v .329 - Freeman - -30.9% decrease
.200 v .335 - Deichmann - -40.3% decrease
OBP
.469 v .408 - Smith - 15.0% increase
.394 v .348 - Slaughter - 13.3% increase
.439 v .406 - Pap - 8.2% increase
.385 v .380 - Watson - 1.3% increase
.347 v .371 - Jordan - -8.0% decrease
.327 v .423 - Kramer - -22.6% decrease
.320 v .438 - Freeman - -26.9% decrease
.275 v .389 - Duplantis - -29.4% decrease
.308 v .449 - Deichmann - -31.4% decrease
Slugging %
.719 v .436 - Pap - 65.0% increase
.568 v .378 - Smith - 50.1% increase
.667 v .467 - Watson - 42.6% increase
.370 v .342 - Slaughter - 8.4% increase
.341 v .414 - Freeman - -17.7% decrease
.324 v .409 - Jordan - -20.8% decrease
.320 v .424 - Duplantis - -24.6% decrease
.314 v .511 - Kramer - -38.6% decrease
.289 v .647 - Deichmann - -55.3% decrease
OPS
1.158 v .841 - Pap - 37.6% increase
1.037 v .780 - Smith - 31.9% increase
1.051 v .847 - Watson - 24.1% increase
.764 v .689 - Slaughter - 10.9% increase
.665 v .780 - Jordan - -14.7% decrease
.661 v .852 - Freeman - -22.4% decrease
.595 v .813 - Duplantis - -26.9% decrease
.641 v .934 - Kramer - -31.3% decrease
.597 v 1.095 - Deichmann - -45.5% decrease
Kramer's woes are well documented, but Deichmann had an atrocious tournament as well. Not only did he fall off the most among starters, he was clearly the worst hitter in the line up on an absolute basis as well.
You expect numbers to decrease in the post season, but given the total lack of production from the top of the lineup, it is a small miracle they made it to the Finals. The latter half absolutely carried the team in the post season.
On another note, Pap was dominant in the post season, and Smith and Watson stepped up in a big way, despite being freshmen. Hopefully they carry that experience and success into 2018.
NCAAT v. Reg
Batting Average
.281 v .257 - Pap - 9.4% increase
.297 v .279 - Smith - 6.7% increase
.333 v .314 - Watson - 6.3% increase
.259 v .250 - Slaughter - 3.7% increase
.275 v .315 - Kramer - -12.8% decrease
.260 v .333 - Duplantis - -22.0% decrease
.216 v .291 - Jordan - -25.8% decrease
.227 v .329 - Freeman - -30.9% decrease
.200 v .335 - Deichmann - -40.3% decrease
OBP
.469 v .408 - Smith - 15.0% increase
.394 v .348 - Slaughter - 13.3% increase
.439 v .406 - Pap - 8.2% increase
.385 v .380 - Watson - 1.3% increase
.347 v .371 - Jordan - -8.0% decrease
.327 v .423 - Kramer - -22.6% decrease
.320 v .438 - Freeman - -26.9% decrease
.275 v .389 - Duplantis - -29.4% decrease
.308 v .449 - Deichmann - -31.4% decrease
Slugging %
.719 v .436 - Pap - 65.0% increase
.568 v .378 - Smith - 50.1% increase
.667 v .467 - Watson - 42.6% increase
.370 v .342 - Slaughter - 8.4% increase
.341 v .414 - Freeman - -17.7% decrease
.324 v .409 - Jordan - -20.8% decrease
.320 v .424 - Duplantis - -24.6% decrease
.314 v .511 - Kramer - -38.6% decrease
.289 v .647 - Deichmann - -55.3% decrease
OPS
1.158 v .841 - Pap - 37.6% increase
1.037 v .780 - Smith - 31.9% increase
1.051 v .847 - Watson - 24.1% increase
.764 v .689 - Slaughter - 10.9% increase
.665 v .780 - Jordan - -14.7% decrease
.661 v .852 - Freeman - -22.4% decrease
.595 v .813 - Duplantis - -26.9% decrease
.641 v .934 - Kramer - -31.3% decrease
.597 v 1.095 - Deichmann - -45.5% decrease
Kramer's woes are well documented, but Deichmann had an atrocious tournament as well. Not only did he fall off the most among starters, he was clearly the worst hitter in the line up on an absolute basis as well.
You expect numbers to decrease in the post season, but given the total lack of production from the top of the lineup, it is a small miracle they made it to the Finals. The latter half absolutely carried the team in the post season.
On another note, Pap was dominant in the post season, and Smith and Watson stepped up in a big way, despite being freshmen. Hopefully they carry that experience and success into 2018.
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:14 pm to slackster
quote:
but Deichmann had an atrocious tournament as well. Not only did he fall off the most among starters, he was clearly the worst hitter in the line up on an absolute basis as well.
Surprised no one talked about him.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:14 pm to slackster
Hell of a season. Time to move on.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:15 pm to slackster
quote:
.281 v .257 - Pap - 9.4% increase
.297 v .279 - Smith - 6.7% increase
.333 v .314 - Watson - 6.3% increase
.259 v .250 - Slaughter - 3.7% increase
.275 v .315 - Kramer - -12.8% decrease
.260 v .333 - Duplantis - -22.0% decrease
.216 v .291 - Jordan - -25.8% decrease
.227 v .329 - Freeman - -30.9% decrease
.200 v .335 - Deichmann - -40.3% decrease
These stats confirm what our eyes saw.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:16 pm to WhoDatNC
quote:
Hell of a season. Time to move on.
Agreed. Seeing the freshmen step up is a nice note going forward.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:19 pm to 81Tiger
Well look at the regular season stats for those that improved. Outside of Watson, it wasn't difficult to improve.
On the flip side, that other group had little room to improve, and could have easily fallen.
Post season is a much smaller sample size. If they play the same amount of games, then you could expect more similar numbers.
And people on this board wouldn't dare shite on Deichman. Kramer, Jordan and CPM are the scape goats for the retards. Everybody else is just in a slump.
On the flip side, that other group had little room to improve, and could have easily fallen.
Post season is a much smaller sample size. If they play the same amount of games, then you could expect more similar numbers.
And people on this board wouldn't dare shite on Deichman. Kramer, Jordan and CPM are the scape goats for the retards. Everybody else is just in a slump.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:26 pm to c on z
quote:
Surprised no one talked about him.
Kramer got a ton of criticism, but he was batting .381 in the regionals and super regionals combined. Deichmann was just bad at all times. He was 2/12 in the regionals, 2/8 in the super regionals, and 5/25 in the CWS, but he basically avoided all criticism.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:32 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Well look at the regular season stats for those that improved. Outside of Watson, it wasn't difficult to improve.
On the flip side, that other group had little room to improve, and could have easily fallen.
On a relative basis, sure, but the guys that improved were also the leaders on an absolute basis. Pap, Smith, and Watson improved the most AND had 3 of the 4 highest BAs, OBPs, Slugging %s, and OPSs. Slaughter improved as well, and had the 3rd highest OBP and 4th highest Slugging % and OPS.
The slump from the top of the line up was killer on a relative and absolute basis.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:35 pm to slackster
quote:
The slump from the top of the line up was killer on a relative and absolute basis
Well if course. If the top of the lineup hits anywhere near their regular season average we are celebrating a national championship today. Baseball doesn't always work out that way though
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:36 pm to slackster
It took running #s to highlight GD's lack of productivity @ CWS? He may have gotten more shitty strikes called against him, but pitchers weren't going to do him any favors, either. He did swing at a lot of bad pitches as he got in a hole.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:38 pm to slackster
Numbers never lie
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:39 pm to slackster
someone remind me again why Slaughter was removed from starting lineup of the most important game of the season?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:40 pm to Murtown
quote:
Numbers never lie
True. But you can still be very selective with which numbers you use to help support your argument. Rantards did it all season long.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:42 pm to tirebiter
quote:
It took running #s to highlight GD's lack of productivity @ CWS? He may have gotten more shitty strikes called against him, but pitchers weren't going to do him any favors, either. He did swing at a lot of bad pitches as he got in a hole.
It wasn't just the CWS though. His struggles started in the 5 games at home in regional and super regional play. For the most part, pitchers came right at him. He had 13 Ks in tournament play, 4 more than anyone else on the team. He struck out in 25% of his plate appearance in the tournament.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:44 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
someone remind me again why Slaughter was removed from starting lineup of the most important game of the season
Hindsight is 20/20.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:50 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Well if course. If the top of the lineup hits anywhere near their regular season average we are celebrating a national championship today. Baseball doesn't always work out that way though
I understand. Hell, if the slump is spread out among the lineup, we probably have a championship. Instead, they created a black home in the line up from Jordan/Slaughter through Deichmann. 5 RBIs in the CWS from the 1st 4 hitters, 19 RBIs from the last 5 hitters. Just awful timing for that kind of slump.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:51 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Hindsight is 20/20.
of course but it was still a bad coaching decision and was pretty unnecessary risk at that point to make a switch there.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:52 pm to Chad504boy
Go find the thread announcing Coomes into the line up. See how many people thought it was a horrible idea at that point.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:53 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Deichman missed a lot of fat fastballs throughout the tournament that during the regular season were going 450ft.
I think pitchers were scared of him and didn't give him much to hit, but when they made mistakes, he absolutely failed to take advantage of the mistakes more often than not.
I think pitchers were scared of him and didn't give him much to hit, but when they made mistakes, he absolutely failed to take advantage of the mistakes more often than not.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:54 pm to Chad504boy
It was a bad decision because of the result. Coomes played good defense all year and hit better than Slaughter.
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