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Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:04 am to atltiger6487
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would a kid from Lafayette or New Orleans go to TCU instead of LSU? I highly doubt it.
I'd be willing to bet it's 50/50. Did you think a kid from University High would go to Alabama?
You see plenty of hometown, or home state players go elsewhere because they want to get away or for other reasons.
Those other reasons, specifically are coaches. How they bond, and what possible "promises" are made to the player are more of a lure than the school itself.
Bama is a perfect example. Do you think that all of the kids from Louisiana are lifelong Bama football fans? They are going to Bama because they win titles, Nick Saban, and they are pretty certain in most cases, that they will end up in the NFL.
Like I said, for every player that chooses a out of state school, there is a player who goes to their in state school because they want to play and win for their state.
It's all about the schools success, and coaching staff. The other half is proximity to family, unless the family is given jobs in the town the school is in. Whether that's at home, or another state.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:06 am to mmcgrath
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Mel Tucker says hello. As do a lot of mid-major coaches.
I am not familiar with Mel Tucker tbh. But humor me about the mid major coaches. Which coaches are moving to other schools yearly or every other year for more head coaching jobs? Serious question.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:11 am to rbdallas
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deal w life and not run from the first adversity they encounter...
While I do agree with this, this is a social problem. The days of players waiting their turn are gone. Sure you have the majority that will stay. But it's not a huge majority. Just like the days are gone of elite high school basketball players going to college for 3-4 years. If the 1 & done rule wasn't in place it would still be a mass exodus for the draft. KG, Kobe, Lebron started a revolution of players not wanting to waste time in college. Whether the talent is good enough or not. The money is well worth it to them in the short term.
A lot of the talk on here is about football. But you definitely could see this affecting basketball a lot. And in a good way.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:19 am to mule74
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According to that article 1/3 of all NCAA athletes transfer. I think that’s an indictment of our whole culture.
What? That kids who go to school for football want to actually get to play football? How dare they!
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:20 am to Kracka
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They only have so many scholarships they can give out. Just like LSU, Bama and other big P5 schools, you are going to have to take scholly's to give scholly's. You can't just grayshirt or have a bunch of walk on's. So even if players get poached, the coaching staff is going to have to come up with a scholarship to give them.
If you think major programs aren't going to push kids to transfer that aren't going to contribute on the field, you are out of your mind.
They will absolutely "encourage" players in the program to transfer that they mis-evaluated out of high school or had injuries slow them down.
Just watch.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:28 am to TheCaterpillar
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If you think major programs aren't going to push kids to transfer that aren't going to contribute on the field, you are out of your mind.
Oh I agree. I am certain they will. shite they do that now.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:34 am to glaucon
quote:they're not - they can transfer. And if they transfer to a lower division school they can play immediately.
they are not like contracts professional athletes sign so why the frick should a player be bound to play the whole time at the same school?
Do you really think it's good for the overall health of the game for a college player to play for 4 different schools? It would be an orgy of constant recruiting and poaching from other teams.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:49 am to CDawson
If they limited the window to declare/leave to a set period in the off season I think it would minimize the impact significantly.
But to allow it to happen on a rolling basis is going to be recipe for chaos.
But to allow it to happen on a rolling basis is going to be recipe for chaos.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:02 pm to J2thaROC
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What? That kids who go to school for football want to actually get to play football? How dare they!
do they really?
or do they just want the exposure so they can cash in at the next level ?????
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:17 pm to CDawson
Fine with it. That’s basically what the whole waiver system has become. Guys like Justin Fields get free passes to transfer because of whatever he made up but the kid with a dying mom gets rejected. shite happens and sometime you need to change.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:18 pm to Kracka
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Grad transfers are already allowed to do this. If a player hasn't graduated by 3 years nowadays, he is fricking off.
Damn dude, I dont Think we should expect players to graduate early as a rule.
This is a 4 year college.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:19 pm to rbdallas
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these kids need to learn to deal w life and not run from the first adversity they encounter...
That’s totally an option in life in almost every field.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:35 pm to Kracka
Scott Frost and Tom Herman were at UCF and Houston for 2 years
Drinkwitz left App State after a year
Taggart, Morris and Moorehead were fired in under 2 years
Drinkwitz left App State after a year
Taggart, Morris and Moorehead were fired in under 2 years
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:38 pm to atltiger6487
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Do you really think it's good for the overall health of the game for a college player to play for 4 different schools?
you should really stop and read what you type before you hit submit. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound saying a player playing for 4 different schools? nobody is going to be in school long enough to do so. Especially if you only get 1 xfer with no sitting out. I mean you knew that before you pressed submit right?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:42 pm to SammyTiger
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Scott Frost and Tom Herman were at UCF and Houston for 2 years
Drinkwitz left App State after a year
Taggart, Morris and Moorehead were fired in under 2 years
OK, so they left one job that they were at, for a bigger job. It's not like coaches are making lateral moves like that every other year UNLESS they are fired or making a serious upgrade. Frost and Herman aren't the exception to the rule. It's happened before. But it's not the norm either. If head coach A is moving every year, or every other year, from one head coaching job to another. 1 he sucks and keeps getting fired. 2 AD's are completely retarded for hiring a guy like that.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:00 pm to Kracka
quote:I was posting a response to the proposition that players should be able to play where they want, which implies no restrictions on transfers, which would be awful for the game as a whole, although it may be good for the transferring players.
you should really stop and read what you type before you hit submit. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound saying a player playing for 4 different schools? nobody is going to be in school long enough to do so. Especially if you only get 1 xfer with no sitting out. I mean you knew that before you pressed submit right?
It's really just a matter of agreeing where those transfer restrictions are.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:01 pm to Kracka
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The days of players waiting their turn are gone.
As a college educator of 35 years...
there needs to be a balance between fairness and "learning to deal w life's issues".
Frankly, "just because I do not get my way" should not be a valid reason for a no-sit out" transfer.
Coach gets fired, things outside the kid's control, or OBVIOUS reasons perhaps, but they need to learn to deal w adversity.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:30 pm to rbdallas
quote:I want restrictions on transfers, but I disagree with you.
As a college educator of 35 years...
there needs to be a balance between fairness and "learning to deal w life's issues".
Frankly, "just because I do not get my way" should not be a valid reason for a no-sit out" transfer.
Coach gets fired, things outside the kid's control, or OBVIOUS reasons perhaps, but they need to learn to deal w adversity.
Kids don't transfer because they're throwing a tantrum for not getting their way. They have a very short window for playing, and if they're languishing on the bench, I don't blame them for going somewhere else where they can play.
Similar to a person not getting the big promotion and then changing companies to advance their career. Not a thing wrong with that - they don't have to stay locked where they are to "learn to deal with life's issue."
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