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My biggest gripe with PM…
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:51 pm
Not giving a pitcher who is dealing a chance to continue the next inning
Why in the heck not give him a chance and then pull him if he gets in trouble.
Hilliard was at 76 pitches!!
Why in the heck not give him a chance and then pull him if he gets in trouble.
Hilliard was at 76 pitches!!
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:53 pm to Sull
It’s been clear over the years that Pawl enters a game with a game plan and can’t adjust.
I honestly think the plan tonight was to get 4 from MH, he was surprised and kept him in for 5. But damn, 6 was too far off his pre-game plan.
I honestly think the plan tonight was to get 4 from MH, he was surprised and kept him in for 5. But damn, 6 was too far off his pre-game plan.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:53 pm to Sull
That was a head scratcher…
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:54 pm to Sull
What about still playing Beloso or hitting and running with 2 strikes and the only productive 2/3 of the lineup?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:55 pm to LSUKTR
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I honestly think the plan tonight was to get 4 from MH, he was surprised and kept him in for 5. But damn, 6 was too far off his pre-game plan.
Yep only thing that makes sense.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:58 pm to Sull
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Why in the heck not give him a chance and then pull him if he gets in trouble.
Because you’re nursing a 1-run lead against a very good offense who is coming up 1-2-3 I believe. Your own offense is not great. You can’t afford for it to get “troubling”. You have to be proactive.
The call didn’t work, but the logic is fine.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:59 pm to Sull
2 runs
Pitching isn't the issue with this game. Too many bad at-bats.
Pitching isn't the issue with this game. Too many bad at-bats.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:59 pm to slackster
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:00 pm to Sull
I feel you. One more game and the Maineri nightmare is over.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:03 pm to lsutiger2010
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You don't pull your starter who is absolutely dealing at only 76 pitches. That logic is idiotic.
He’s only absolute dealing if you ignore the shite right in front of you. He sat for a long time and then had to get warmed up again. After the delay he was getting much harder contact. He’s about to see one of the best lineups in the country for the 3rd time.
Taking him out is a reasonable decision. Leaving him in could be argued too. Neither are some stone cold lock decision like people want to believe.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:07 pm to Sull
From the limited information you have as a fan watching on TV, that’s fine. But the problem is you are missing 90% of the data for the equation. I think Paul was planning to pull Hilliard earlier, but let him go longer. You don’t have pitch charts and conversation with the pitcher to make these decisions. Hilliard pitched amazing and should be thanked by every LSU fan there is. However, he is not a pitcher that will roll through the batting order 3-4 times and overpower them.
Coleman came out scared shitless and lost the game. Then settled in and pitched great. It happens to freshmen. No reason to bash the coach.
Coleman came out scared shitless and lost the game. Then settled in and pitched great. It happens to freshmen. No reason to bash the coach.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:08 pm to dale10
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:08 pm to slackster
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You can’t afford for it to get “troubling”. You have to be proactive. The call didn’t work, but the logic is fine.
you don’t have to load the bases. He walks a guy or gives up an XBH, go get him. Look how option 2 worked out
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:13 pm to slackster
If I looked up historical statistics on roughly the following circumstances in baseball:
-SP at ~75 pitches through 5 innings
-1 run allowed
-ahead in the game
…I’d bet it’s over 90% of the time the coach left the SP in the game
-SP at ~75 pitches through 5 innings
-1 run allowed
-ahead in the game
…I’d bet it’s over 90% of the time the coach left the SP in the game
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:16 pm to The Pirate King
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Look how option 2 worked out
Well that’s the point. Everyone in the game thread thought the lead off guy struck out. That K + the Doughty throw is another 0 on the board.
I didn’t think pulling him was obvious, it leaving him in wasn’t obvious either.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:17 pm to The Pirate King
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you don’t have to load the bases. He walks a guy or gives up an XBH, go get him.
Look how option 2 worked out
Oh looks who is crying like the little bitch that he is. So typical.
He put in the guy that half the rant was saying should start. Now that it didn't work, it's easy to sit here and say how terrible of a move it was.
Coleman didn't even do bad. Doughty screwed up that inning with a really boneheaded mental mistake. If you have runners on 3rd with two outs versus first and third with one out, chances are we get out of that inning 2-2. Then who knows what happens.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:19 pm to JPLSU1981
Maineri has no feel for the game.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:21 pm to JPLSU1981
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f I looked up historical statistics on the following circumstances in baseball:
-SP at ~75 pitches through 5 innings
-1 run allowed
-ahead in the game
…I’d bet it’s over 90% of the time the coach left the SP in the game
Those aren’t the only variables.
Look up SP with abnormal rest + 40 minute rain delay after a couple innings + 3rd time through the line up + 76 pitches + very good line up + your own offense clearly struggling
Paul likely thought we had one chance to win and that was keeping them to 1-run. Someone had to get through the top of the line up, and he liked Coleman’s chances.
Y’all are so excited about Hilliard dominating the same bottom of the lineup that Coleman torched too.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:31 pm to slackster
The sensible thing would have been to let Hilliard start the 6th. Runner gets to 2nd then go to Vietmeier to get out of it. Then start Coleman in the 7th
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