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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:35 am to
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:35 am to
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It does not matter what round he's picked in. Why do people not understand this concept? They can roll money over to him depending on who they don't sign before him. He could easily get a lot of money. We could get unlucky and lose every recruit drafted.

IMO, we'll lose Mac, Bradley and Latz.




Plenty of people understand the concept. we can only take them for their word. just let it be, sheesh. we have a damn good shot at landing latz and mac.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:35 am to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:18 am to
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Why do people not understand this concept? They can roll money over to him depending on who they don't sign before him


I think you are the one that does not understand.

They can't draft 40 people for a total pool of say 3m and still spend 3m if they only sign 20. Theaallotment for a player goes away from the pool if that specific player is not signed. They loose that slots allotment and their pool is reduced.

Now, if a slot is allotted 400k and they sign that slotted player for 300k, they can use the 100k different on another player.

This does not account for going over and paying the tax
Posted by tigabait01
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:22 am to
Can juniors who are not drafted sign free agent deals? I assume yes, but not sure.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:20 am to
Apparently Marshall is on campus, I hope we don't see another Brody Colvin situation
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2686 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:26 am to
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IMO, we'll lose Mac, Bradley and Latz.


Why do you feel that way?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:03 am to
He has absolutely no clue and his going off of his gut
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:04 am to
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They can't draft 40 people for a total pool of say 3m and still spend 3m if they only sign 20. Theaallotment for a player goes away from the pool if that specific player is not signed. They loose that slots allotment and their pool is reduced. Now, if a slot is allotted 400k and they sign that slotted player for 300k, they can use the 100k different on another player.
Good explanation. Thanks.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:14 am to
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They can roll money over to him depending on who they don't sign before him.
Based on other posters' comments about how the process works, I'm pretty sure your statement is not correct.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:43 am to
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Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:49 am to
I admit I haven't spent time looking up the draft rules but his explanation makes sense. Otherwise a team could draft a player knowing they won't offer him enough money to sign him just so they can use that slot's allotment to spread out to other draftees.

It's also my perception that one of the reasons there are supplemental rounds after the first three rounds is to compensate teams for not signing players who they drafted in the previous year. That's because they, in effect, lose the slotted amount for those drafted previously plus they don't get the player they drafted early.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22229 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:49 am to
Any player that you don't sign in the top 10, you forfeit that amount from your pool.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71357 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:52 am to
I was just looking for a link to that rule. I looked and couldn't find it. Not calling you a liar, I would just like to see the rule.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30393 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:52 am to
It's true but it only applies to the first 10 rounds because that's what the pool is based on.

From round 11 on the "slot" is 100K but it isn't included in the pool. Any amount over 100 in those rounds does count against the team's pool.

I think the Astros will be able to put a 7 figure offer in front of Marshall.
Posted by geauxtigers810
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2004
577 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:53 am to
LINK
"A team cannot simply select a player and choose not to sign them, and then use the money slotted for that pick towards another player. For any unsigned player, the team loses the money associated with that slot from their overall budget. This gives any player who can re-enter the draft in future years additional leverage, as teams count on the ability to use their entire budget."

Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73834 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:54 am to
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I think the Astros will be able to put a 7 figure offer in front of Marshall.
how so
Posted by geauxtigers810
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2004
577 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Any amount over 100 in those rounds does count against the team's pool.


This is not accurate
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30393 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:01 am to
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how so

Because they're already saved 1.4 million in their pool on Aiken and they probably only have one pick in the first 10 rounds that will require an over slot offer (the 6th round pick). So they really only need to find about 500K more in savings to be able to offer both Marshall and the 6th round pick about a million. Whether or not that is enough to sign either is a different question.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22229 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:01 am to
quote:

This is not accurate


Pretty sure it is.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71357 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:02 am to
Alright thanks for the link.


The Astros have 1.42 million surplus right now. If they offer Nix 700,000 (350,000 over slot), they will be able to offer Marshall over a million.
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