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Posted on 3/3/09 at 2:51 pm to tojo
13 pages??? unbelivable. And all the lee supporters still fail to come up with one legit reason for him to start. Instead of coming up with a reason, they try to drag jefferson down with them. unbelievable
Posted on 3/3/09 at 4:48 pm to TheDoc
what about when JJ faces powerhouses like troy st and tulane?
My thoughts exactly. Oh and you forgot Miss. State in that category as well. And weren't ALL those games at home? Where he didnt have to worry about the crowd?
My thoughts exactly. Oh and you forgot Miss. State in that category as well. And weren't ALL those games at home? Where he didnt have to worry about the crowd?
Posted on 3/3/09 at 5:01 pm to hotrod
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typical ranter reply
I would argue that what you said is more of a typical ranter reply.
This post was edited on 3/3/09 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/3/09 at 5:03 pm to cubsgrace
JJ hasnt proved anything except that he will be an ok back up behind JLee
Posted on 3/3/09 at 5:09 pm to Mmorsey
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JJ hasnt proved anything except that he will be an ok back up behind JLee
I don't know how to talk to illogical, possibly psychotic ranters like yourself.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 6:10 pm to tojo
Either you're drinking bad water, in which case I think there is still hope for you - try Ozarka. Or, you have a mental disability - maybe stem cell research or advances in surgery will find an answer? Or, you are poorly educated and have likely given up on yourself already - if you change your mind, I suggest starting with a GED, followed by community college.
Don't talk to me about logic. You people make me sick.
Don't talk to me about logic. You people make me sick.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 6:27 pm to Mmorsey
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JJ hasnt proved anything except that he will be an ok back up behind JLee
I think Hitler was on the right track.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 6:51 pm to LA007
quote:Has anyone said that? The only posters I've seen make any kind of definite assertion are the ones insisting that JJ will DEFINITELY start ahead of Lee.
just don't agree with posters that say he should start over J.J., unequivocally.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 6:55 pm to TheDoc
quote:Does it not seem likely to you that the team could very easily have been reacting to the situation where a true freshman had to come out of nowhere to take over because the RS Freshman was struggling so badly they had no choice? I mean, had the team not been reeling from the QB nightmare that had been the first 10 weeks of the season, don't you think they might have reacted to Jefferson's mistakes a little differently?
looked to me like in the bowl game the whole team rallied around him and fed off of the QB play.
A QB that loses to 3-8 Arkansas looks a lot different starting out the season than he does coming off the bench to replace the guy who's thrown 7 INTs for Touchdowns.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 7:05 pm to TheDoc
quote:Actually, no. You have said that you would have started Jefferson from day one no matter how badly he struggled. Obviously, you would never have given Hatch or Lee a chance (since you apparently "knew" the future and could see that they would never be any good at QB).
I would have given all three a legit chance
quote:And it is absolutely impossible for you to conceive of the possibility that Jordan Jefferson -- in September -- was not as good a QB as Andrew Hatch or Jarrett Lee -- in September. That is due to the same ignorance that prevents you from realizing that Jarrett Lee could conceivably (though unlikely) be a better QB than Jordan Jefferson next Septemeber. You are simply unaware that the way a player performs on one given date in one given situation is not necessarily indicative of how he would have been capable of performing on a different given date (ESPECIALLY when the time difference represents the vast majority of his time in the program; Jefferson after 13 weeks in the LSU Football program was almost certainly a much different QB than Jefferson after 3 weeks in the LSU Football program).
i'm sure jefferson was promised the same thing.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 7:08 pm to King Joey
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just don't agree with posters that say he should start over J.J., unequivocally.
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I like the tone of your posts because you keep it positive.
But, most definitely, many posters say that Lee should be the starter.
Just look at the comment to which I replied... paraphrasing,"the only thing J.J. has proved that he'll be an ok backup to J.L.".
It's all in good fun arguing back and forth. Some people take it too seriously. And, admittedly, sometimes I overreact making a point.
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just don't agree with posters that say he should start over J.J., unequivocally.
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quote:
Has anyone said that? The only posters I've seen make any kind of definite assertion are the ones insisting that JJ will DEFINITELY start ahead of Lee.
I like the tone of your posts because you keep it positive.
But, most definitely, many posters say that Lee should be the starter.
Just look at the comment to which I replied... paraphrasing,"the only thing J.J. has proved that he'll be an ok backup to J.L.".
It's all in good fun arguing back and forth. Some people take it too seriously. And, admittedly, sometimes I overreact making a point.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 7:15 pm to King Joey
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You have said that you would have started Jefferson from day one no matter how badly he struggled.
This is your post to Doc.
Is this true? What I've seen is comments like... "what if Jefferson would have had the reps/starts, etc.".
Posted on 3/3/09 at 8:01 pm to tojo
Easy guys, easy. We have like 6 months to go before the season starts. This conversation will be the most argued from now until then. Nobody will completely agree on who is the better QB. Lee looked brilliant at times and terrible at others. He also played stiffer competition. JJ played a little more consistent and also showed some flashes with fewer mistakes, but played against weaker competition and in fewer games. Then you have all-world Shep who hasnt played a second in college. Its a stale-mate all the way around.
Here's what will happen IMO. Spring will come and Go and we will be NO closer to naming a starter. Each QB will look great at times and struggle at others and Miles wont tip his hat in any direction. It will stay that way until summer workouts are over. The only thing we know for sure is that Shep will play some role in the offense (he will most likely run the Wild-Shepard). I hope they all compete and push each other, may the best man win out.
Here's what will happen IMO. Spring will come and Go and we will be NO closer to naming a starter. Each QB will look great at times and struggle at others and Miles wont tip his hat in any direction. It will stay that way until summer workouts are over. The only thing we know for sure is that Shep will play some role in the offense (he will most likely run the Wild-Shepard). I hope they all compete and push each other, may the best man win out.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 8:28 pm to tigerbill002
Considering the lack of experience for all of or QBs, who the starter is at the start of the season might not count for much in the long run.
Crowton will use a duel-QB system, or even a tri-QB system this year.
Crowton will use a duel-QB system, or even a tri-QB system this year.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 8:56 pm to Bad Cat
quote:
duel
So does this means the last guy standing will start?
What will be the weapon of choice for the duel?
Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:18 pm to King Joey
quote:
I mean, had the team not been reeling from the QB nightmare that had been the first 10 weeks of the season, don't you think they might have reacted to Jefferson's mistakes a little differently?
Very subtle but solid point. Leadership must be given the opportunity. That's why it comes down to coaching.
We're spectators speculating.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:23 pm to LA007
Yeah, JJ did lose to Arkansas, but he improved drastically from then to the bowl game.
Lee was inconsistent and unreliable throughout the entire season and showed minimal improvement. Yes, he did lead comebacks, but stringing together a few good drives against Troy is not exactly the type of improvement we're looking for.
As for the QB situation, hopefully each player has a shot so all 3 can compete hard and end up being the best they can.
Lee was inconsistent and unreliable throughout the entire season and showed minimal improvement. Yes, he did lead comebacks, but stringing together a few good drives against Troy is not exactly the type of improvement we're looking for.
As for the QB situation, hopefully each player has a shot so all 3 can compete hard and end up being the best they can.
Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:25 pm to kyledicentra
the only way JJ doesnt start is if he gets hurt
period
JJ = competitor
Lee = deer in headlights
thats the difference in their success to me
period
JJ = competitor
Lee = deer in headlights
thats the difference in their success to me
Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:32 pm to Bad Cat
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If Georga Tech could shutdown J.J. in the second half, I wonder if SEC defenses could do the same.
Are you kidding me?!?!
Your gonna say that it was only coincidence that we were up 35-3 and didnt keep making huge plays in the second half. Arkansas again, we had a big lead and kinda were laid back coming out of the locker room and the defense implosion didnt help anything. This is a very weak argument your trying to throw out here, theres so many holes in it.
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