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re: Matt Canada -- Master of Disguise -- Pro Style Spread Offense
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:11 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:11 am to Rickdaddy4188
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tell us more about Dave aranda aspiring to be a career position coach.
Well, let’s tell the rest of the story about Coach O instead, Okay, you moron? Those players Coach O was stuck with weren’t recruited by Coach O. They were inherited by Coach O. Indeed, he was stuck with them. They came from the previous coach, who also couldn’t win with those losers either.
Not to mention, that when he was fired, recruiting was cited as the primary reason for his termination. In fact, the AD administration had been trying for three seasons to make that former coach improve his recruiting before the inevitable finally happened. Which is why they fired him after only his first losing season because they knew that someone who couldn’t recruit also couldn’t rebuild a team back up into a winner again.
So, they hired Coach O and gave him a four-year contract to rebuild the Ole Miss football team. However, he couldn’t win either with those piss poor players he inherited from the previous coach. No one could, not in the SEC. So, he had a losing record for three straight years with another coach’s piss poor players. Then after his third losing season, the Ole Miss administration pulled the rug out from under Coach O, and fired him, although they had promised him they’d give him four years.
Then they brought in Coach Houston Nutt and gave him a four deal. However, the instant Houston Nutt comes in, he is able to win with the players that Coach O had personally recruited and brought in to Ole Miss for three straight years until they graduated or were no longer eligible to play anymore, then all of sudden Coach Houston Nutt isn’t able to win with his own players and like Coach O ends up getting fired at Ole Miss’s coaching carousel.
Nonetheless, anyone who isn’t retarded like Rickdaddy here can easily see that had Coach O been given his fourth and final season as was promised him, that, for all intents and purposes, the program at that point had been rebuilt, as Coach O would have easily begun to win in his fourth year and final year with his own players.
Some of these Coach O haters will say that doesn’t mean a damn thing as inheriting another coach’s players is still no excuse because Coach O was also recruiting at the same time during those years. Yeah, he was, however, anyone with at least half a brain and who knows a modicum about football unlike Rickdaddy knows that at a minimum it takes three recruiting seasons of excellent recruiting to build a winning team.
Indeed, it takes the cream of the crop from at least three great recruiting seasons to build a winning team. No one can do it with just one or two recruiting seasons, and most can’t do it after three seasons. Nonetheless, Coach O did it and these Miles brown nosers and Coach O haters don’t want you to know about it or you to know the full story either because they want to vilify and demonize Coach O and the LSU Tigers, just like this moron Rickdaddy here.
Hell, the same exact thing also happened to Coach Charlie Strong at Texas, as he also ended up getting fired after only three seasons because he too couldn’t win with Coach Mac Brown's crappy players that he also had inherited, and everyone like these Coach O haters said that he should have been able to win because he had been recruiting for three years at the same time, but again it takes at least three years of very excellent recruiting to build a winner. So, Coach Charlie Strong ended up getting fired after three years of a four-year deal just like Coach O was fired and someone else now, Coach Tom Herman, has been brought in to reap what Coach Charlie Strong has sowed. If Coach Tom Herman wins immediately, then we will know that Coach Charlie Strong is really a good coach like Coach O, despite those losses he suffered thanks to the thankless job he took at Texas.
The moral of the story is, don’t take a coaching job to rebuild a totally decimated football team, because the fans are already very frustrated since the previous coach was there and want to win now, right now, and because the fans are already more than frustrated, they will put a ton of pressure on the AD administration, which will then fire the coach that takes on such a task before the end of his contract and his coaching record will end up becoming devastated just like Coach O and just like Coach Charlie Strong.
Even Coach Hugh Freeze readily admits that had Ole Miss given Coach O his final and fourth year of his four-year contract at Ole Miss, that, for all intents and purposes, the Ole Miss football team at that point had been successfully already rebuilt, as Coach O would have easily won with the players that he had personally recruited and had brought in to Ole Miss, and in all probability Coach O would still be the head coach at Ole Miss to this day.
Indeed, the Ole Miss AD administration deserves exactly what it has reaped so I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. In fact, I agree with former Coach Tommy Tuberville, they should all be fired and Ole Miss should be forced to start all over again from scratch to clean out the rat nest.
And this Rickdaddy moron has so much Les Miles brown stuff permanently stained on his nose that I can smell that ignoramus all the from here. He’s a classic ranter. You can't believe a single word that moron says.
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:35 am to Space Cowboy
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Those players Coach O was stuck with weren’t recruited by Coach O. They were inherited by Coach O. Indeed, he was stuck with them. They came from the previous coach, who also couldn’t win with those losers either.
that shite coach Miles went to a far worse situation at Oklahoma State and had them winning 8&9 games.
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Nonetheless, anyone who isn’t retarded like Rickdaddy here can easily see that had Coach O been given his fourth and final season as was promised him, that, for all intents and purposes, the program at that point had been rebuilt, as Coach O would have easily begun to win in his fourth year and final year with his own players.
opinion
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Indeed, it takes the cream of the crop from at least three great recruiting seasons to build a winning team. No one can do it with just one or two recruiting seasons, and most can’t do it after three seasons. Nonetheless, Coach O did it and these Miles brown nosers and Coach O haters don’t want you to know about it or you to know the full story either because they want to vilify and demonize Coach O and the LSU Tigers, just like this moron Rickdaddy here.
it doesn't take 3 recruiting classes to do better than 3-9 and
it doesn't take 3 recruiting classes to go better than 0-8 in conf play.
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Hell, the same exact thing also happened to Coach Charlie Strong at Texas, as he also ended up getting fired after only three seasons because he too couldn’t win with Coach Mac
strong's worst year at Texas is better than O's best year at old miss
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The moral of the story is, don’t take a coaching job to rebuild a totally decimated football team, b
that shite coach Miles took over a program with 1 winning season from 1988-2001 and made them respectable.
that shite coach Miles didnt have trouble getting a shite program back afloat.
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And this Rickdaddy moron has so much Les Miles brown stuff permanently stained on his nose that I can smell that ignoramus all the from here. H
I'm sorry facts about Miles upset you.
but it glorious watching you defend a coach that ,throughout his career, took shots at lsu and has accomplished nothing at lsu while all you did was blast one of the most accomplished coaches in sec history.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 12:38 am
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
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tell us more about Dave aranda aspiring to be a career position coach.
Here is a recent Dave Aranda interview, does it sound like he wants to be a head coach to you?
LINK
Like I previously said, he loves Coach O and the coaching staff over here, his wife has taken a liking to Baton Rouge and his kids love their school, their teachers, and their friends. Indeed, he says that he wants to grow up and be like coach Ensminger one of these days, who is an assistant coach and not a head coach.
It doesn't sound to me that he aspires to be a head football coach. Not to mention, that you can ask anyone who has been around him and they will all tell you that he is a very quiet guy and doesn't say much, and quiet guys like Dave Aranda are usually very analytical guys that don't aspire for the limelight. In fact, they usually shy away from the limelight and let others, like Coach O, that like it enjoy the limelight.
I believe that the last thing that Dave Aranda aspires to be is a head football coach, as he would be very miserable having to deal with the administration, the news media, having to do the coaching show, having to deal with the donors, the alumni, the head coaches, the civic clubs, and the general public at large. That's not the kind of person Coach Dave Aranda is and that's not what he wants to do.
Nonetheless, only a retard like you would claim that Alleva should have hired an assistant coach to be the head coach at LSU after Les Miles and instead of Coach O who had been the very successful interim head coach. Yeah right, had Coach Alleva listened to a moron like you, he would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of the state. Indeed, you're a mega ignoramus of major magnitudes and besides, you stink like shite because of all that brown stuff permanently stained all over your way oversize nose.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 1:06 am to Space Cowboy
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I believe that the last thing that Dave Aranda aspires to be is a head football coach,
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Nonetheless, only a retard like you would claim that Alleva should have hired an assistant coach to be the head coach at LSU after Les Miles
so the smart move is hiring a 55 year old career dline coach?
wow
you do realize that most people are trashing Alleva because he hired a POSITION COACH to be lsu's head coach,right?
hiring a proven coordinator would have been a step up from hiring a career dline coach.
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instead of Coach O who had been the very successful interim head coach
so now it's considered very successful
when you lose to the good teams on the schedule? O had a 77 win % during his interim tenure. miles 76.8 win % was vastly underachieving.
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Indeed, you're a mega ignoramus of major magnitudes and besides, you stink like shite because of all that brown stuff permanently stained all over your way oversize nose.
cool.
for 29 of O's 32 year career,no ad thought enough of his coaching to give him a coordinators job.
Aranda has actually proven he can run a successful side of the ball.
O hasn't.
neither O nor aranda have proven they can run a successful program.
aranda would have been a far better option and would have insured our defense throughout his tenure.
the fact that you think it's worse to hire a proven defensive coordinator than hiring a career dline coach tells me all i need to know.
oh and by all means keep making personal attacks for no reason.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 1:14 am
Posted on 8/5/17 at 1:31 am to Space Cowboy
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Well, let’s tell the rest of the story about Coach O instead, Okay, you moron? Those players Coach O was stuck with weren’t recruited by Coach O. They were inherited by Coach O. Indeed, he was stuck with them. They came from the previous coach, who also couldn’t win with those losers either.
Not to mention, that when he was fired, recruiting was cited as the primary reason for his termination. In fact, the AD administration had been trying for three seasons to make that former coach improve his recruiting before the inevitable finally happened. Which is why they fired him after only his first losing season because they knew that someone who couldn’t recruit also couldn’t rebuild a team back up into a winner again.
So, they hired Coach O and gave him a four-year contract to rebuild the Ole Miss football team. However, he couldn’t win either with those piss poor players he inherited from the previous coach. No one could, not in the SEC. So, he had a losing record for three straight years with another coach’s piss poor players. Then after his third losing season, the Ole Miss administration pulled the rug out from under Coach O, and fired him, although they had promised him they’d give him four years.
Then they brought in Coach Houston Nutt and gave him a four deal. However, the instant Houston Nutt comes in, he is able to win with the players that Coach O had personally recruited and brought in to Ole Miss for three straight years until they graduated or were no longer eligible to play anymore, then all of sudden Coach Houston Nutt isn’t able to win with his own players and like Coach O ends up getting fired at Ole Miss’s coaching carousel.
Nonetheless, anyone who isn’t retarded like Rickdaddy here can easily see that had Coach O been given his fourth and final season as was promised him, that, for all intents and purposes, the program at that point had been rebuilt, as Coach O would have easily begun to win in his fourth year and final year with his own players.
Some of these Coach O haters will say that doesn’t mean a damn thing as inheriting another coach’s players is still no excuse because Coach O was also recruiting at the same time during those years. Yeah, he was, however, anyone with at least half a brain and who knows a modicum about football unlike Rickdaddy knows that at a minimum it takes three recruiting seasons of excellent recruiting to build a winning team.
Indeed, it takes the cream of the crop from at least three great recruiting seasons to build a winning team. No one can do it with just one or two recruiting seasons, and most can’t do it after three seasons. Nonetheless, Coach O did it and these Miles brown nosers and Coach O haters don’t want you to know about it or you to know the full story either because they want to vilify and demonize Coach O and the LSU Tigers, just like this moron Rickdaddy here.
Hell, the same exact thing also happened to Coach Charlie Strong at Texas, as he also ended up getting fired after only three seasons because he too couldn’t win with Coach Mac Brown's crappy players that he also had inherited, and everyone like these Coach O haters said that he should have been able to win because he had been recruiting for three years at the same time, but again it takes at least three years of very excellent recruiting to build a winner. So, Coach Charlie Strong ended up getting fired after three years of a four-year deal just like Coach O was fired and someone else now, Coach Tom Herman, has been brought in to reap what Coach Charlie Strong has sowed. If Coach Tom Herman wins immediately, then we will know that Coach Charlie Strong is really a good coach like Coach O, despite those losses he suffered thanks to the thankless job he took at Texas.
The moral of the story is, don’t take a coaching job to rebuild a totally decimated football team, because the fans are already very frustrated since the previous coach was there and want to win now, right now, and because the fans are already more than frustrated, they will put a ton of pressure on the AD administration, which will then fire the coach that takes on such a task before the end of his contract and his coaching record will end up becoming devastated just like Coach O and just like Coach Charlie Strong.
Even Coach Hugh Freeze readily admits that had Ole Miss given Coach O his final and fourth year of his four-year contract at Ole Miss, that, for all intents and purposes, the Ole Miss football team at that point had been successfully already rebuilt, as Coach O would have easily won with the players that he had personally recruited and had brought in to Ole Miss, and in all probability Coach O would still be the head coach at Ole Miss to this day.
Indeed, the Ole Miss AD administration deserves exactly what it has reaped so I don’t feel sorry for them one bit. In fact, I agree with former Coach Tommy Tuberville, they should all be fired and Ole Miss should be forced to start all over again from scratch to clean out the rat nest.
And this Rickdaddy moron has so much Les Miles brown stuff permanently stained on his nose that I can smell that ignoramus all the from here. He’s a classic ranter. You can't believe a single word that moron says.
This is horseshite and you should be embarassed.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:25 am to Rickdaddy4188
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that shite coach Miles went to a far worse situation at Oklahoma State and had them winning 8&9 games.
Well, why do you always revert back to bragging about your idol, Coach Les Miles? Let me remind you, he was fired because he was a piss poor mediocre head coach. People don't get fired for doing a good job. Not to mention, that idiot had been given a second chance and had been warned.
Yeah right, he did well his first two seasons at Oklahoma State, because like coach Houston Nutt and like coach Tom Herman, those players he inherited were another coach’s players that he didn’t recruit. Had Coach O at Ole Miss also been lucky enough to inherit similar good players like those players Coach Les Miles inherited, he would have won for three years and never would have been fired too. Nonetheless, that wasn’t the situation that both Coach O and Coach Charlie Strong stepped into. Instead, the players they inherited, unlike the players’ Coach Les Miles inherited, were utterly piss poor. Indeed, nobody could win with them and not in the SEC.
However, Coach Mike Gundy who had replaced Coach Les Miles did only 4 -7, 7-6, 6-6 in his first three years with the players that Miles had recruited and brought in to Oklahoma State.
Not to mention, that Coach Mike Gundy is an astronomically far better coach than Les Miles ever was close to being. As he has turned Oklahoma State into one of the premier college football programs in the country. That would never have happened had Les Miles stayed at Oklahoma State I can promise you that.
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opinion
Call it what you want ignoramus, but Houston Nutt came in and was able to win immediately with the players’ Coach O had personally recruited and had brought to Ole Miss, and then subsequently couldn’t win with his own players and ended up getting fired.
Even Coach Hugh Freeze admits that had Coach O been given that fourth and final year of his contract that he would have been a winner with his own players and would in all probability still be the head coach of Ole Miss to this day.
Meanwhile, Hugh Freeze worked for both of them and certainly knows astronomically far more about the situation relative to an enormous ignoramus like you.
Moreover, Coach O has proven that he can coach. Indeed, he took a USC team and turned it around and made it a winner and then he did the same thing over here after your idol, Coach Les Miles, couldn’t win with the LSU team.
Indeed, last year was the first time in many, many years that LSU was actually fun to watch or didn't you notice?
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it doesn't take 3 recruiting classes to do better than 3-9 and
it doesn't take 3 recruiting classes to go better than 0-8 in conf play.
Well, that didn’t have anything whatsoever to do with recruiting. That had to do with the piss poor players he inherited from the previous coach and was stuck with. What are you a retard or something? Wait, don’t answer, the answer is quite obvious.
Nonetheless, you moron, anyone who knows a modicum about football unlike you, knows that it takes a minimum of at least three recruiting seasons to create a winning team, as it will take the cream of the crop of at least three recruiting seasons to do it, and Coach O did it. Unlike your idol, Coach Les Miles had done while at Oklahoma State, whose own recruits were also quite mediocre. Indeed, go back and look at Coach Mike Gundy’s first three seasons after Coach Les Miles left if you're too stupid to believe me.
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strong's worst year at Texas is better than O's best year at old miss
That’s because the players’ Coach Charlie Strong inherited at Texas weren’t as bad as the piss poor player Coach O had inherited at Ole Miss. Nevertheless, he still couldn’t win with those players like Coach O couldn't win with the players he was stuck with. Not to mention, that the Big 12 is a shite conference too. The Texas team Coach Charlie Strong inherited anyway was still pretty mediocre, but it still wasn’t nearly as decimated as the team Coach O inherited at Ole Miss.
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that shite coach Miles took over a program with 1 winning season from 1988-2001 and made them respectable.
that shite coach Miles didnt have trouble getting a shite program back afloat.
You’re full of it, those players Coach Les Miles inherited at Oklahoma state were recruited by the previous Head Coach, who like Coach O, obviously shouldn’t have been fired. Indeed, those players Coach Les Miles inherited weren't his players. He didn't recruit them and bring them to Oklahoma State. Those players weren't his players.
Meanwhile, the players’ Coach Mike Gundy inherited from Coach Les Miles were far more mediocre relative to the players’ Coach Les Miles had inherited from the previous coach.
Hence, it’s a good thing Coach Les Miles took the LSU job because he probably would have been fired. Indeed, can you be more stupid than you are? I don’t think you can.
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I'm sorry facts about Miles upset you.
Don’t humor yourself you ignoramus, everyone knows you couldn’t recognize a fact even if it stared you in the face, winked at you, and then spit in your eye.
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but it glorious watching you defend a coach that ,throughout his career, took shots at lsu and has accomplished nothing at lsu while all you did was blast one of the most accomplished coaches in sec history.
If Coach Les Miles was half as accomplished as you foolishly claim you moron, he would have been snatched up in less than 5 minutes after he was fired. Indeed, he’d be much like Coach Chip Kelly is today, as he would be able to pick and choose his next job. Instead, he’s like the plague, no one wants to touch that loser with a ten-foot pole and I can’t say that I blame them.
Meanwhile, Coach O took Coach Less Miles’ players last year and made them winners. Indeed, for the first time since Nick Saban had been at LSU, LSU was actually fun to watch last year and that was because Coach Les Miles and his dysfunction were finally gone. Hallelujah.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:39 am to Space Cowboy
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Well, why do you always revert back to bragging about your idol, Coach Les Miles? Let me remind you, he was fired because he was a piss poor mediocre head coach. People don't get fired for doing a good job. Not to mention, that idiot had been given a second chance and had been warned.
most coaches get fired or are forced to resign. the ones that leave on their own accord are the outliers.
Bill Belichik and Pete Carroll have both been fired.
I bring miles up because you say he is shite coach yet he went into a far worse situation at Oklahoma State than O went to at ole miss and miles has vastly better results.
you keep saying that no coach can take a shite program and turn them into a respectable program in 3 years yet the coach you claim is shite, did just that.
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If Coach Les Miles was half as accomplished as you foolishly claim you moron,
accomplishments arent claims. they are reality and are objective facts.
also, miles is 63. he would be the oldest person hired at a p5 program in the last decade.
and again I ask......
if not getting job offers means you're a shite coach then o is clearly a shite coach. for 29 of his 32 year career no ad even wanted him as a coordinator, let alone head coach.
you do realize you can respond and have a back and forth without personal attacks, right?
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Meanwhile, Coach O took Coach Less Miles’ players last year and made them winners
the win % under miles is almost identical to o's interim tenure.
who knew all it took was a coaching change for people like you to be ok with losing to 14 point underdogs that was missing tons of defensive starters.
who knew all it took was a coaching change for people like you to be ok with having 6 1st downs against bama at home( least amount of 1st downs of any bama opponent) and 125 yards of offense.
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You’re full of it, those players Coach Les Miles inherited at Oklahoma state were recruited by the previous Head Coach, who like Coach O, obviously shouldn’t have been fired. Indeed, those players Coach Les Miles inherited weren't his players. He didn't recruit them and bring them to Oklahoma State. Those players weren't his players.
so what you're saying is that O shouldnt get any credit for what he does at lsu until only his players are at lsu? let me guess, you don't apply that logic to ed orgeron.
miles inherited talent that never won more than 5 games in the previous 3 years.
it's fun watching you not gove credit to miles when he was a head coach bevause those werent his players and then tout an interim tenure.
wow.
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Meanwhile, the players’ Coach Mike Gundy inherited from Coach Les Miles were far more mediocre relative to the players’ Coach Les Miles had inherited from the previous coach.
you really have no clue what you're talking about.
from 1999-2003 Oklahoma State had 2 players drafted in the NFL.
miles classes from 2003-2007 had 8 players drafted in the NFL.
you're just spouting bullshite.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 3:03 am
Posted on 8/5/17 at 4:02 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Prove it, put your money where your mouth is and prove it. What’s your source? You don’t have any because you are a loon. Loons can’t back up what they say.
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so the smart move is hiring a 55 year old career dline coach?
He’s not a career defensive line coach. He’s been a head coach and an interim head coach three times, and he has been successful at it too, despite your false claim.
Of course, as always you will say he wasn’t even qualified to be a coordinator. However, Coach O didn’t want to be a coordinator. Instead, he wanted to be a head coach, and thus far he has done an astronomically far better job since taking over the head coaching job from your idol, Coach Les Miles after he was fired for years and years of offensive dysfunction, and good riddance.
wow
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you do realize that most people are trashing Alleva because he hired a POSITION COACH to be lsu's head coach,right?
No, I’m not stupid like you moron. The vast overwhelming majority of the LSU fans and the ex-players outside of the Rant wanted Coach O to be hired as the head football coach of LSU very, very badly and still support him very, very much today.
I guess you don’t remember the polls, obviously because you live in your own tiny bubble. It is only a small cabal of Coach Les Miles brown nosers here on the Rant that hate Coach O with a passion like you and constantly trash and bash him at every opportunity ad nauseam because he took over Les Miles’ former team and transformed it into winners that were for the first time in many years actually fun to watch, that hate Coach O with a passion.
Indeed, had Alleva hired an assistant to be the head coach at LSU as you and only you are stupid enough to advocate such stupid nonsense, he would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of the state of Lousisana you moron. Indeed, you have to be the most stupid ranter on the rant.
Again, you moron, Coach O wasn’t only a defensive line coach who put more than his fair share of players in the NFL and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he was an outstanding recruiting coordinator for numerous teams during his coaching career. In fact, he is such a good recruiter that there was a famous book written about him. He was also a successful former head coach fired wrongly by Ole Miss, and he has been a very successful interim head coach at USC, and again a very successful interim head coach at LSU, when he replaced your idol, Coach Les Miles, after he was fired by the university for being a piss poor head coach. Furthermore, the job he has done compared to Coach Les Miles as both the interim head coach and now the head coach has been astronomically far better relative to Coach Les Miles as well, as unlike Coach Les Miles, he can actually communicate very well and can easily out work him. Not to mention, that he is an outstanding motivator, as he has injected new energy into the LSU program for the better. Indeed, compared to your idol, Les Miles, Coach O is a rock star.
Meanwhile, the only people trashing Alleva for hiring Coach O is you ignoramus rantards here on the rant that constitute a small cabal of idiots. However, the public at large outside the rant and the former players all absolutely love Coach O with a passion and the improvements he has made to the program. Coach O isn’t doing it for the money. Instead, he’s doing it because this is his dream job, because he loves the players, and because he loves LSU and the state of Louisiana. Indeed, he actually has skin in the game, unlike Coach Les Miles who is and has always been an outsider.
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so now it's considered very successful
It was very successful. Anyone who can take a team your Idol Coach Les Miles coached and turn it into a winner and a team that was actually fun to watch for the first time since Nick Saban was coach, did a damn good job. Meanwhile, we lost to Alabama, but that was because we were still strapped down with Coach Les Miles very antiquated offense that Alabama knows like the back of their hand. In fact, the Alabama defense knew most of the plays coming before the ball was snapped it was so predictable.
Furthermore, that loss no matter what you say to Florida wasn’t on Coach O. That loss came in a fluke game and was on the players who made that string of stupid major mistakes at the most inopportune times. Not to mention, that our middle linebacker also got hurt in that game. Nonetheless, anyone who watched that game easily knew that LSU was the better team.
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cool.
It’s true, I can’t get your awful smell out of my nose.
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for 29 of O's 32 year career,no ad thought enough of his coaching to give him a coordinators job.
Everyone who followed Coach O’s career knows that he never wanted to be a coordinator moron. You're pulling that one from deep within your arse.
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Aranda has actually proven he can run a successful side of the ball.
O hasn't.
Again, moonbat, Coach O never wanted to be a coordinator. So big deal. However, Coach O has not only proven he can win on the field but that he can meet with the administration, the media, do a coaches show, deal with the donors, the alumni, the players, the former players, the high school head coaches, the civic clubs, and the public at large and Coach Aranda would never want to do any of that, because that guys loves what he is doing.
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neither O nor aranda have proven they can run a successful program.
To the contrary Coach O has three times. Aranda would never accept such a job if offered. That’s not his bag of tea.
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aranda would have been a far better option and would have insured our defense throughout his tenure.
Yeah right, had Alleva been stupid enough to hire an assistant coach as oppose to Coach O, the state of Louisiana would have tarred and feathered him and ran him out of the state. Indeed, you must live in a hermetically sealed cocoon.
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the fact that you think it's worse to hire a proven defensive coordinator than hiring a career dline coach tells me all i need to know.
You’re full of shite, Coach O had plenty of head coaching experience and since being hired he has proven to be astronomically far more capable than your idol and former LSU head Coach Les Miles both on and off the field.
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oh and by all means keep making personal attacks for no reason.
Oh, I have plenty of justification to respond the way I respond you severely mentally handicapped ignoramus.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:08 am to Space Cowboy
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Space Cowboy
TL;DR Champion.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:40 am to Rickdaddy4188
It was pretty obvious that this thread, even though about Canada, was about miles to Rick.
Sheesh. The dude is pathetic
You almost feel like he's conflicted. He wants LSU to win, but not if it makes Miles look bad.
For fricks sake man. Get over it.
Miles is gone. You can stop trying to pretend Canada is barely different. It doesn't matter
Sheesh. The dude is pathetic
You almost feel like he's conflicted. He wants LSU to win, but not if it makes Miles look bad.
For fricks sake man. Get over it.
Miles is gone. You can stop trying to pretend Canada is barely different. It doesn't matter
Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:46 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:ROFLMAO
Good God you're a miserable fricker
go cry over Lee not starting the 2011 title game
You're just pathetic
But hey. I predicted this.
The board, with a couple exceptions, has largely put Miles in their rear view mirror.
The board is focused on THIS season. But not the Miles brigade. You guys are STILL posting like we're in the middle of the 2015 season.
And I said that would happen. Repeatedly.
Get on board with 2017 man.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:53 am to SportTiger1
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i'm just trying to temper expectations. Remember, Gary Crowton was a broyles finalist and was thought of by this board as 'the wizard'.
It may be easier to temper expectations by NOT using a coach who won a National Championship at LSU as an example.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:11 pm to Space Cowboy
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Again, you moron, Coach O wasn’t only a defensive line coach who put more than his fair share of players in the NFL and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he was an outstanding recruiting coordinator for numerous teams during his coaching career. In fact, he is such a good recruiter that there was a famous book written about him. He was also a successful former head coach fired wrongly by Ole Miss, and he has been a very successful interim head coach at USC, and again a very successful interim head coach at LSU, when he replaced your idol, Coach Les Miles, after he was fired by the university for being a piss poor head coach. Furthermore, the job he has done compared to Coach Les Miles as both the interim head coach and now the head coach has been astronomically far better relative to Coach Les Miles as well, as unlike Coach Les Miles, he can actually communicate very well and can easily out work him. Not to mention, that he is an outstanding motivator, as he has injected new energy into the LSU program for the better. Indeed, compared to your idol, Les Miles, Coach O is a rock star.
Who are you?
What is this?
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:35 pm to Space Cowboy
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why do you always revert back to bragging about your idol, Coach Les Miles?
Why are you always trying like hell to convince the rest of us that Ed Orgeron had a successful tenure at Mississippi, that he was in the process of building a dynasty at Mississippi and that he was unjustly fired after 3 piss-poor seasons at Mississippi?
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Houston Nutt was able to come in and win immediately with the players Coach O had personally recruited and brought to Ole Miss
Maybe we should've hired Houston Nutt.
You have to be related to Orgeron some how. There isn't any other reason for someone to come up with all the bull shite about his time at Old Miss. like you have and just be a "fan" of LSU football.
Everyone one of us LSU fans hope like hell Orgeron is successful and we're all rooting for him, but you and your creative writing of his time in Oxford really takes the cake.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I bring miles up because you say he is shite coach yet he went into a far worse situation at Oklahoma State than O went to at ole miss and miles has vastly better results.
I don’t know what you are smoking, but whatever it is I want some. What worse situation? You are obviously either very delusional, otherwise very dumb, are more probably both.
Coach Les Miles at Oklahoma State inherited some pretty damn good football players from the previous coach he replaced and that obviously shouldn’t have been fired. Coach Les Miles didn’t recruit any of those players, instead, he was just very fortunate to have inherited those players after his predecessor had previously recruited them.
Indeed, the only reason Coach Les Miles was able to enjoy some success at Oklahoma State was because he inherited some better than average college football players.
Meanwhile, when Coach Cutcliffe was fired at Ole Miss, poor recruiting was cited as the primary reason for his termination, as the Ole Miss AD department had been trying to get him to fix his recruiting problems for three years before the inevitable eventually happened. Which is why he was fired after only his first losing season. As the Ole Miss AD department knew full well that it was impossible for a piss poor recruiter to rebuild a football program.
Consequently, Coach O inherited some very horrible football players from his predecessor, Coach Cutcliffe, unlike Coach Les Miles, who was LUCKY enough to inherit some pretty damn good football players from his predecessor.
Furthermore, Coach Les Miles’s recruiting at Oklahoma State wasn’t as good either as Coach O’s recruiting at Ole Miss was. In fact, Coach Mike Gundy went 7-4 and 7-6 with Coach Les Miles recruited players and Coach Houston Nutt went 9-4 and 9-4 with Coach O’s recruited players.
So once again you are full of crap.
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you keep saying that no coach can take a shite program and turn them into a respectable program in 3 years yet the coach you claim is shite, did just that.
Look moron, it’s obvious. No one can win without the players, which is why Alabama is so damn good relative to everyone else. Indeed, it’s because year in and year out they get the best players in the country.
The fact of the matter is the players’ Coach Les Miles inherited had been recruited and brought to Oklahoma State by his predecessor who obviously shouldn’t have been fired, and that constitutes the sole reason why he enjoyed some success during his tenure at Oklahoma State. While the players’ Coach O inherited, on the other hand, had been recruited and brought to Ole Miss by his predecessor that obviously deserved to be fired in stark contrast and that also constitutes the sole reason why Coach O was unable to enjoy any success with those piss poor players. As those players that Coach O inherited relative to the decent players’ that Coach Les Miles inherited, were piss poor.
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accomplishments arent claims. they are reality and are objective facts.
also, miles is 63. he would be the oldest person hired at a p5 program in the last decade.
Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all you are. Which is why I can still smell that stinky assed brown nose you have all the way over here today. In the coaching profession, coaches very seldom retire on their own because there is too much money involved for them to retire. Instead, they are usually retired by being fired. Historically, successful head coaches coach for as long as they can.
Hence, your 63-year-old age excuse is just that, a very lame excuse. If Athletic Directors perceived Les Miles as being a competent coach deserving of his record, he would already have a job.
However, that’s obviously not how they perceive Coach Les Miles. Instead, they view him as I do, i.e., as a very mediocre head coach at best. Coach Les Miles isn’t responsible for his own damn record at LSU. LSU and the rest of the coaching staff made his coaching record and coach Les Miles was mostly a liability to the program during his tenure at LSU. Let’s give credit where credit is due!
Indeed, most of the country understood how incompetent Coach Les Miles was for years because it was exceedingly obvious. Indeed, everybody remembers the LSU-Ole Miss fiasco in 2009, when it became exceedingly obvious that Coach Les Miles didn’t know how to manage a damn clock and embarrassed the hell out of the university and the LSU fanbase at the same time by blowing that game in front of the entire country.
Imagine, a damn head coach, no less, can’t manage a damn clock, when my own son by the time he was eight years old knew how to manage a damn clock. Moreover, that dumb arse still didn’t know how to manage a damn clock when he was fired last year in 2016.
Not that to mention, that everyone always heard him fumbling in halftime reports during games. Believe it or not, everybody else aren’t fools like you, moonbat. Indeed, many in the sports media used to act and play like Coach Les Miles’ stupidity was just an act, but it wasn’t just an act. Indeed, that was the real Coach Les Miles, he was always stupid and dumb.
In fact, had we had someone else coaching, like Coach O, for instance, at LSU during Coach Les Miles’ tenure, we would have easily won at least two more national championships and probably more.
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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if not getting job offers means you're a shite coach then o is clearly a shite coach. for 29 of his 32 year career no ad even wanted him as a coordinator, let alone head coach.
Man…you are a mega idiot. Everyone who has followed his career knows that Coach O didn’t want to be a damn coordinator. Instead, he wanted to be a head coach, was a head coach, and is the head coach of LSU today whether you like it or not. So, go fly a damn kite with your phony and exceedingly lame attack that you pulled from deep within the recesses of your arse.
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you do realize you can respond and have a back and forth without personal attacks, right?
Yeah, I realize that you are a severely mentally handicapped mega idiot of gigantic proportions who also has very brown stained nose.
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the win % under miles is almost identical to o's interim tenure.
Miles isn’t responsible for his win percentage you moron. If he was, he would already have a job. LSU and the rest of the coaching staff are responsible for that record, as Miles was more of a liability than he was anything else. Give me a break!
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who knew all it took was a coaching change for people like you to be ok with losing to 14 point underdogs that was missing tons of defensive starters.
Despite your obvious stupidity moron, nobody who watched that game last year blames Coach O for that fluke lost except for Coach Les Miles’ brown nosers and Coach O haters here on the Rant. That lost wasn’t Coach O’s fault no matter what you claim moron. Indeed, witness the polls of all the people in Louisiana who still wanted Coach O to be hired as head coach after that lost you moron. Even the former LSU players overwhelmingly still wanted Coach O to be hired after that game. Nobody but Les Miles brown nosers and Coach O haters here on the Rant blames Coach O for that lost.
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who knew all it took was a coaching change for people like you to be ok with having 6 1st downs against bama at home( least amount of 1st downs of any bama opponent) and 125 yards of offense.
Again, like a loon you are blaming Coach O for a loss that wasn’t his fault, but his predecessor’s fault instead. Indeed, it wasn’t Coach O’s fault that LSU was still strapped down by Coach Les Miles extremely antiquated offense. If it had been left up to Coach O, we would have had a hell of a lot better offense installed. However, because he took over in the course of the season after your idol, Coach Les Miles was fired for mediocrity, there was no time to change the offensive scheme.
In fact, because we were still stuck with Coach Les Miles’ extremely uncreative and severely antiquated offense last season, the Bama defense was able to predict the plays coming even before the ball was snapped. No one can when against a team the caliber of Alabama under those circumstances, which, by the way, is the reason why Coach Les Miles also blew the National Championship game in 2011.
In any event, had not Coach O been strapped down with Coach Les Miles’ incredibly lame offense, we would have won that game last season in Tiger Stadium you moron.
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so what you're saying is that O shouldnt get any credit for what he does at lsu until only his players are at lsu? let me guess, you don't apply that logic to ed orgeron.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m saying alright. Except in the case of Coach O, he has obviously made the LSU players far better than they were under Coach Les Miles, because the LSU football team is actually fun to watch again for the first time since Nick Saban was the head coach here at LSU, and that’s because, like the former LSU players have noted, Coach O has injected new energy, new life, and a new purpose into the football program that clearly wasn’t present when Coach Les Miles was still the head coach. Indeed, Coach O is ten times the motivator than Coach Les Miles ever was. Meanwhile, I’ll accept the opinions of former LSU players over the stupidity of you and the other Coach O haters any day of the week and twice on Sundays you loser.
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miles inherited talent that never won more than 5 games in the previous 3 years.
Bull shite! Then how did his predecessor win coach of the year in 1997 you moonbat?
Again, like I said, the reason Alabama wins year in and year out is because they get the players. It’s also the primary reason why LSU is also so damn successful. So, if you want to believe that Coach Les Miles won with somebody else’s piss poor players because he is superman, then it just demonstrates once again that you are utterly retarded. Actually, what it proves is his predecessor shouldn’t have been fired.
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it's fun watching you not gove credit to miles when he was a head coach bevause those werent his players and then tout an interim tenure.
wow.
Those players Coach Les Miles inherited at Oklahoma State from his predecessor were actually pretty damn good players, unlike the players’ Coach O had inherited from his predecessor at Ole Miss that were all piss poor players.
Indeed, Coach Les Miles also inherited some pretty damn good football players at LSU when he took over, as Coach Nick Saban had two National Championship teams already recruited and stocked up in the house waiting for him when Coach Les Miles took over. However, because Coach Les Miles was so damn mediocre, we only ended up with one of those National Championships, and, indeed, we were very lucky to win that one, as getting into that National Championship game took an act of God, after Coach Les Miles lost games to two mediocre teams we never should have lost. Indeed, had Pittsburgh not upset a very heavily favored West Virginia team, we would have been left in the cold.
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you really have no clue what you're talking about.
It’s more like the other way around, you obviously don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Indeed, compare Mike Gundy’s record relative to Coach Houston Nutt’s record, and it’s obviously clear that Coach Houston Nutt did astronomically far better with the players’ Coach O had recruited relative to the players’ Coach Les Miles had recruited at Oklahoma State.
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from 1999-2003 Oklahoma State had 2 players drafted in the NFL.
miles classes from 2003-2007 had 8 players drafted in the NFL.
Of course, that’s because Oklahoma State was a piss poor program compared to the LSU program you moron.
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you're just spouting bull shite.
No, you spout bullshite. I spout facts.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:53 pm to Space Cowboy
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he was also a successful former head coach fired wrongly be Ole Miss
frick! A 3-21 SEC record and a 10-25 overall record is successful in your book? Jesus jumped up and down man. That's hilarious! Posted on 8/5/17 at 4:00 pm to ShortyRob
Who the frick cares about this miles versus O bulshit!
Miles is not our coach anymore. How good or bad he was is now wholly irrelevant.
All we can do now is hope the next season is good and the seasons to come.
As for coach orgeron what happened at Ole Miss is interesting but in the final analysis doesn't matter either
He will either prove those of us who are concerned about his hire right or wrong and here's hoping he proves us wrong
Given that it's been 11 fricking years I think it's at least Fair to wait and evaluate him on results at LSU
Miles is not our coach anymore. How good or bad he was is now wholly irrelevant.
All we can do now is hope the next season is good and the seasons to come.
As for coach orgeron what happened at Ole Miss is interesting but in the final analysis doesn't matter either
He will either prove those of us who are concerned about his hire right or wrong and here's hoping he proves us wrong
Given that it's been 11 fricking years I think it's at least Fair to wait and evaluate him on results at LSU
Posted on 8/5/17 at 4:02 pm to Space Cowboy
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I spout facts.
After reading all the novels that you've posted about Orgeron and his time at Old Miss, you wouldn't know a fact if it stared you in the face, winked at you and then spit in your eye.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 6:32 pm to earl keese
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After reading all the novels that you've posted about Orgeron and his time at Old Miss, you wouldn't know a fact if it stared you in the face, winked at you and then spit in your eye.
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