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TigerBert
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Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
If they can stay healthy, can be what percent of the skill level of

Marshall,Chase,Jefferson, Moss + Burrow + CEH

I know it's hard to directly compare, considering different Olines and PGC...

Note: Plug in whatever Curry/Emery/TDP assumption you feel will materialize

But...for grins...

A) Similar level
B) 95% as well
C) 90% as well
D) 85% as well
E) 80% as well


TexasTiger24
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
F) 60%

why is A even an option
This post was edited on 9/14 at 9:46 am


BigDawg0420
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
It will all depend on Brennan. The talent is there to be just as great as 2019.


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Jebadeb
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
I agree with ~60%. 80% is expecting a lot.


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I20goon
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
I'm going with (D), 85% with 90% within reach.

You don't replace Chase, Burrow, and CEH with.....
McMath, Brennan, and Curry/TDP and expect the same.

But the system along with player development can get you close.

Worth noting, 85%-90% is good enough for an undefeated season IF the defense improves statistically (i.e. the NEED to score is reduced) and special teams maintains (I expect slight improvement here actually).


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Clark W Griswold
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Experience is key and they don’t have much of it. Talent can’t get you there alone. It’s not gonna be as efficient as a year ago so don’t try to set false expectations. Think of how bad it was during Miles years and know it’ll be better than that.


Papa Tigah
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Depends on our qb play!


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High C
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Palmer doesn’t fit anymore?


iamandykeim
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
In terms of production, expecting anything more than 80% is kind of crazy to me. Returning basically nothing with no spring and an all SEC schedule is brutal.


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deaux
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
You’re trying to compare a lineup with two true freshmen versus a lineup with 4 first round draft picks (including Chase)?


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nitwit
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Other than having another year of development behind them, is there any reason to believe this group of returning RBs will be special?
If any one of the three has broken out of the pack and shown special promise, I have missed the reports.


The Pirate King
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
quote:

Palmer doesn’t fit anymore?


Palmer got passed by Kayshon Boutte


LSU Patrick
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Based on O's interviews, Boutte and Gilbert are just THAT good.


Tmcnair96
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
From an athletic standpoint, I believe this years skill positions are better. Time will tell if Gilbert and Boutte can read defenses like Jefferson and Moss.


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KamaCausey_LSU
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
I think we'll see total offensive numbers closer to 400-450 yards per game. 250/150 passing/running yardage split. Maybe even closer to 200/200.


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PIGSKIN
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Palmer is doing good too, what i heard


Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
Expect a 60% range.

In the biggest clutch games, Burrow’s RPO game and his feet moved the chains too. Brennan is not only a pocket QB and wasn’t in high school either. Hopefully he has the body now to take hits and get up and throw a 30yd strike after a run.

We’ve got 4 new starters on the OL so that part needs to gel too. Hopefully we have a plan in place for teams overloading the A gaps when we go to the bunch formation because Georgia and Clemson got pressure with interior blitzing.


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LifeAquatic
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
quote:

Other than having another year of development behind them, is there any reason to believe this group of returning RBs will be special?



Yes. The reason to believe that we'll get very good RB play is this: We have 3 guys who all either (a) have an elite skill-set, (b) have already proven to be solid, or (c) both. That means that we know that, whoever the lead back winds up being, he'll have beaten out two really strong players. Even if the individual likelihood of a given one of them attaining elite play might only be ~40%, the likelihood that at least one of the three attains elite play is very high.



To illustrate, let's just do the math: If we assume that they each, individually, have a 40% chance of breaking out, then that gives us a 78.4% chance of having a breakout running back. That's really good odds imo, and that's without even having a super optimistic outlook. If, on the other hand, you bump up the odds of a breakout to 60% each, then that would give us a 93.6% chance of at least one of them breaking out.


This is the benefit of having elite depth.


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CajunDan
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
I don't know, but if we achieve any of those choices, we'll be right back in the Nattie picture. I'm hoping for 70% or better.


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biohzrd
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re: Marshal, McMath, Boutte, Gilbert + Brennan + RB
You for all intents and purposes lost 4 1st round NFL picks, and most of your starting O-line. If this years O can even do 70-75% of last years I'll be happy. I feel the defense will help the offense more this year.


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