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LSU drops to #4 in NET...

Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:44 pm
Houston moved up to #3.

Kind of hard to understand considering Houston has 1 more overall loss at 14-2 and is 0-2 in Quad 1 games and 4-0 in Quad 2. (4-2 combined)

LSU is 4-1 in Quad 1 and 2-0 in Quad 2. (6-1 combined)

I guess it's complicated. Only thing I can figure is they have 2 road wins to LSU's zero.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14474 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:46 pm to
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I guess it's complicated. Only


It is, that's why I leave it to tPear. He has people for all that.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:51 pm to
It's based on every single game so you cant just look at vacuums of a few games.
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1334 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:53 pm to
Good news is we have a quad 1 road opportunity on Wednesday and a quad 1 at home Saturday
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3350 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:56 pm to
Nah Arkansas is too low. Technically that is a Quad 3. Florida on the road is a Quad 1.
Posted by MrWalkingMan
31st Parallel North
Member since Aug 2010
6302 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:58 pm to
Houston is number 6 in adjusted offense and number 13 in adjusted defense in the country. That team is flippin good.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9463 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:00 pm to
No doubt
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7506 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:01 pm to
Road wins matter, which is why we need to buckle down tonight and do our best to steal a few on the road in the SEC.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:03 pm to
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I guess it's complicated. Only thing I can figure is they have 2 road wins to LSU's zero.




just glancing at the data, it's likely that Houston's road record(2-1) is the reason they are slightly ahead of LSU (0-1).
Posted by Billder
Where you live
Member since Nov 2009
5223 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:05 pm to
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LSU drops to #4 in NET...


fire everybody
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Kind of hard to understand considering Houston has 1 more overall loss at 14-2 and is 0-2 in Quad 1 games and 4-0 in Quad 2. (4-2 combined)

LSU is 4-1 in Quad 1 and 2-0 in Quad 2. (6-1 combined)


It’s not just the records is also the score differential in those games. Winning or losing a Quad 1 game by 1 and by 10 are different according to NET. (10 is the max differential)
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10128 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:10 pm to
I guess chanting “overrated” does hurt your NET ranking after all
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3350 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:13 pm to
In general though, LSU should have anywhere from 7 (on the very low end) and 10 Quad 1 opportunities left depending on the SEC tournament as well. Already having 4 wins they are in great shape. Double digit quad 1 wins gets you to that top 2 seed conversation.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
3002 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Florida on the road is a Quad 1.



and gonna have to do that very likely without our PG
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17527 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:21 pm to
damn, burn it all down. Maybe next year....

It's all O's fault.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:36 pm to
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Good news is we have a quad 1 road opportunity on Wednesday and a quad 1 at home Saturday



Arkansas is definitely not quad 1, it's a quad 3 game right now with their NET at 92.

Quad 1 home games are vs. 1-30 NET
Quad 2 home games are vs. 31-75 NET
Quad 3 home games are vs. 76-160 NET
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28242 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Only thing I can figure is they have 2 road wins to LSU's zero.


Probably in part. In the NET formula road wins are adjusted upwards by a margin of 1.4 in the winning % formula, whereas home wins are only adjusted 0.6. Basically, true road wins count for twice as much as a home win. As you said, Houston has 2 to LSU's 0.

In addition, the efficiency numbers are also taken into account. Now, the NCAA may have their own efficiency ratings, but in looking at KenPom Houston is ranked #3. LSU is ranked #9. For the first time ever in the Wade era the big anchor on LSU's efficiency rating is the offense (currently #77)

What is likely is the NET numerical margin between LSU and Houston is pretty slim. A win for LSU AT Florida on Wednesday would likely vault them over Houston.

It is great to beat teams like Kentucky and Tennessee at home. But LSU is going to need to put some road wins on the resume as well if they want to get a high seed come March.
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1334 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:59 pm to
Damn I didn’t realize they had fallen that much
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32624 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:02 pm to
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He has people for all that.
You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think Wade knows this himself,

That dude is incredible.

We could be ranked 1 and net 1 and we’re looking at a 4 seed at best because they hate us
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9463 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:02 pm to
Thanks for the reminder on home game Quad numbers.

Do you remember road games off the top of your head?
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