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LSU Basketball Lacks Talent

Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:16 am
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6391 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:16 am
Coming into the season and after the first few games I thought we were a pretty talented team. I was fooled early on. This team lacks talented basketball players. After watching the 1-5 SEC schedule start, here is my opinion on players.

Blankeny - Supremely talented player.

Reath - Good player, but lacks physicality to compete with other bigs down low. (victor loss hurts him)

Sampson - Great athlete, but not a high IQ basketball player. Very very raw, needs good coaching.

Robinson III - Not quick enough to play in the SEC.

Mays - Mays has the tools but is young, he would have done better playing behind a superior guard this year.

Patterson - Mediocre guard at best. Lacks decision making skills that a true PG should have.

Jenkins - Haven't seen enough of him to give my opinion.

Bridgewater - Has no business being on an SEC roster. 6'-4" centers don't work in division 1 basketball.

Epps - Same boat as Reath, good talent and a stretch big. But, he lacks the physicality to compete with other SEC bigs.

Sims - I like Sims, but he is also undersized for his position. He struggles to guard other 4s. He is not quick enough to guard a 2/3 and isn't big enough to guard a 4/5.

This team lacks overall basketball IQ. This is solely on the coaching staff. We just make dumb mistakes and it is happening far to often. We have a few great athletes, but athletes don't always translate to great basketball players.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10889 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:33 am to
CJJ has yet to put a team on the court that looks like they know what they are doing. That's not a knock on the players, Some of then I agree are talented and have a lot of potential. What has been lacking in every year JJ has coached LSU is "Understood Common Direction" At best with Martin, Mickey and Quarterman (In his breakout 2nd season) They looked like an organized street ball team. There was still no sense of organization to their play though just running and gunning with little thought of defense.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6391 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:37 am to
I think the only players that have a lot of upside to them are...Blankeny, Sampson, Mays, and Reath.
Posted by lmt
Houston
Member since Oct 2009
329 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:41 am to
Mays just needs to get stronger and mature some guy gets to the rim when ever he wants to just not strong enough to finish!
Posted by Brunedog
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
6480 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:48 am to
Exactly and we are steadily allowing talent to leave Louisiana (great talent at that)
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25325 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:54 am to
If you took everyone from this team and they played for Syracuse, they'd be a top 25 team.
Don't tell me they arent talented. We've been more talented than most teams we play for the last few years. We are so under coached that we look less talented than we are.

Blakeny and Sampson have off the chart athleticism, and can shoot. Epps and Reath are athletic bigs that can shoot. All 4 of them have chances at the next level based purely off their potential.
There's no reason more can't be gotten from a 7'1" 300Lb guy.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7920 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 6:59 am to
quote:

If you took everyone from this team and they played for Syracuse, they'd be a top 25 team.


Wrong. Very wrong.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9493 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:37 am to
quote:

LSU Basketball Lacks Talent
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7052 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:40 am to
lsu basketball does not lack talent. Give trent johnson this team and we are pushing for a low seed in tourney. He just couldnt get this team. Literally more than half the players you put on there you eluded to talent but raw.

Do you not understand difference between talent and coaching.

quote:

This team lacks overall basketball IQ. This is solely on the coaching staff. We just make dumb mistakes and it is happening far to often. We have a few great athletes, but athletes don't always translate to great basketball players.


Then you finish with this and completely contradict what you put as title. If you have watched lsu basketball in the past you would understand difference between lack of talent and lack of coaching. Literally the last coach we had was the Anti JJ
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7052 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:42 am to
quote:

think the only players that have a lot of upside to them are...Blankeny, Sampson, Mays, and Reath.


lsu has had plenty of years where having that many players with upside would be large improvement.

The problem with this fanbase is half of yall started watching last year
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35297 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:49 am to
quote:

LSU Basketball Lacks Coaching
FIFY

We actually have some decent talent. A few teams we've lost to have had far less talent than us. The problem is, street ball doesn't work at this level.

CJJ has no clue how to run an offense or coach defense. Both of which can help make up for lesser talent.

I understand what you're saying, and I'm not saying we're the most talented team out there, but to say this team lacks talent is completely false. This team lacks coaching. Our offense is probably similar to what they'd run at one of the parish prisons.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35297 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:52 am to
quote:

think the only players that have a lot of upside to them are...Blankeny, Sampson, Mays, and Reath.

So you say this team lacks talent, then proceed to name 4 players with very good talent.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 7:53 am
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7052 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:52 am to
quote:

We actually have some decent talent. A few teams we've lost to have had far less talent than us. The problem is, street ball doesn't work at this level.

CJJ has no clue how to run an offense or coach defense. Both of which can help make up for lesser talent.

I understand what you're saying, and I'm not saying we're the most talented team out there, but to say this team lacks talent is completely false. This team lacks coaching. Our offense is probably similar to what they'd run at one of the parish prisons.


all this. Exactly my point just said better
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35297 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:54 am to
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10453 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:55 am to
quote:

This team lacks overall basketball IQ.

This team lacks overall basketball talent.

FIFY since you lost your focus somewhere between the thread title and the OP.
Posted by Mobiletiger
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2007
1506 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:10 am to
It seems that they have stretches where they lack effort and hustle. Once they get behind it seems like they just know they cant win. That is coaching.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 8:11 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19196 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:15 am to
quote:

If you took everyone from this team and they played for Syracuse, they'd be a top 25 team.
lol what kinda dope you smoking baw, we could bring Roy Williams and Phil Jackson to coach here and they wouldn't sniff the top 25. Outside of Blankly the rest is Southland/SWAC talent at best
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11271 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:18 am to
I'll sum up your OP this way:

Reath is the only baseline/inside SEC starting caliber player, and he is a slightly above average SEC level player.

You can compete in the SEC with 4 guards/wing players, but they have to all be very good outside shooters and defenders which these guys are not.

This is on CJJ for not having more big guys who can play at a high level in the SEC and guards/wings who can shoot and defend consistently.
Posted by DONHOGG
NE Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
1981 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:23 am to
All this team does is shoot threes. With some coaching this team could be competitive not top 10 but competitive.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42187 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:23 am to
No size on this team and no help on the way either
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