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re: LSU Admits it Altered Chavis Contract
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:58 pm to BallChamp00
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:58 pm to BallChamp00
quote:
That's typical from Dellenger tho.
If I had time, I would e-mail his dumb arse.
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:59 pm to Pax Regis
quote:Every damn time you are not trying to enforce it. Seriously, the law does not give a whit if I take my copy of a contract into my secret lair and use white out or Photoshop or magic to alter the terms of the contract. It does not matter as long as I am not trying to enforce the altered terms.
Give me an example where secretly and unilaterally altering the terms of a contract is ethical. And I'm not talking about your example of making notes in the margins or some crap. I mean changing material terms without the other party's knowledge.
Give me an example where it's unethical to "secretly and unilaterally alter the terms of a contract" when you are not trying to enforce it.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:02 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:
Did you even read the article you linked?
Three changes:
1) Changing the name of the LSU president/chancellor/whatever because a new guy took the office after Chavis signed and before it was approved by the BoS
2&3) Changing the designation of the buyout period from a span of numbered months to a specific day of each of the referenced months in two provisions
Neither change had any impact on the terms of the contract, the length or amount of the buyout or any other provision.
In addition, Chavis signed ANOTHER agreement a year after that which ratified the changes LSU made.
Also, incidentally, LSU, through a public records request, obtained a copy of a contract signed by Chavis and A&M in DECEMBER 2014, but Chavis and A&M are still claiming he wasn't hired by A&M until February. Note that the deadline for his buyout was January 31st.
Of these two developments, one seems MUCH more significant than the other, yet the bullshite one is the one that gets publicity? Typical.
So, all these pages when the thread should have ended on page 1 with OP saying, "Oh, nevermind".
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:02 pm to TigerBait1127
It says to me they initially thought no comment was a good idea and then when they saw the shitstorm being created they decided they better get their side out to the public and so they cobbled together a press release to send to the newspaper to include in the article.
I agree that sometimes no comment is the best strategy. But more frequently it is not. This was one of those times. And clearly someone on LSU's team thought so too because now we have a press release.
I agree that sometimes no comment is the best strategy. But more frequently it is not. This was one of those times. And clearly someone on LSU's team thought so too because now we have a press release.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:02 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:
1) Changing the name of the LSU president/chancellor/whatever because a new guy took the office after Chavis signed and before it was approved by the BoS
2&3) Changing the designation of the buyout period from a span of numbered months to a specific day of each of the referenced months in two provisions
Neither change had any impact on the terms of the contract, the length or amount of the buyout or any other provision.
In addition, Chavis signed ANOTHER agreement a year after that which ratified the changes LSU made.
Also, incidentally, LSU, through a public records request, obtained a copy of a contract signed by Chavis and A&M in DECEMBER 2014, but Chavis and A&M are still claiming he wasn't hired by A&M until February. Note that the deadline for his buyout was January 31st.
Of these two developments, one seems MUCH more significant than the other, yet the bullshite one is the one that gets publicity? Typical.
So you're saying this board overreacted!!!!???
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:03 pm to zsav77
quote:Everything I have posted in this thread has been 100% accurate.quote:There you go again with that smarmy attitude.
Let me put this in simple terms for you
The quote that you badly misinterpreted was from Chavis's lawyer. Of course they're going to assert that the contract was altered without his consent.
You came in with your usual "oh silly children, let me educate you" post that was incorrect as usual. Par for the course.
I must have pissed you off in some other thread. Get over it.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:03 pm to BayouBengals03
Damn, I was just about to load up my car with water bottles for the March2FireAlleva mob.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:04 pm to Lou Pai
This thread is why our fan base gets laughed at.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:05 pm to BayouBengals03
I mean really it's not just the board. No way the advocate should have let Dellenger run that article without facts.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:05 pm to BayouBengals03
Well there's a thread on the SEC rant running parallel. Lots of idiots misled by an unethical journalist contorting the facts.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:09 pm to BallChamp00
The Advocate has let stupid shite get run for years now. They did it during the whole Miles firing fiasco, too.
Our local media and fan base will overreact, and criticize, anything. It's incredible that people don't just allow a situation to play out and see the result before forming opinions.
Like I said, it's a witch hunt against the administration. They are losing every fight in the court of public opinion over and over and over again. And it's because our fans are pessimistic in basically every situation now.
Maybe if we beat Alabama next season it'll stop.
Our local media and fan base will overreact, and criticize, anything. It's incredible that people don't just allow a situation to play out and see the result before forming opinions.
Like I said, it's a witch hunt against the administration. They are losing every fight in the court of public opinion over and over and over again. And it's because our fans are pessimistic in basically every situation now.
Maybe if we beat Alabama next season it'll stop.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:10 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
So you're saying this board overreacted!!!!???
One that thing that has not changed is the "Catastrophe Syndrome" that some are afflicted with on this board.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:11 pm to Salviati
quote:
Give me an example where it's unethical to "secretly and unilaterally alter the terms of a contract" when you are not trying to enforce it.
If you show it to me and act like it is what we agreed to. Even though you didn't take me to court to enforce it you tried to slip one past me hoping I wouldn't notice. I've seen that happen before. It undermines trust, can end long business relationships, and on occasion get someone's arse kicked - all without anyone asking a court to enforce anything.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:12 pm to Hoodatt
quote:
"Catastrophe Syndrome"
Perfect way to put it. Everything is the end of the world.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:15 pm to Salviati
I think the issue may be even bigger than that...It says it took the Board of Supervisors several months to ratify the contract, and in the interim, those changes were made. Given the fact that the two parties signed/ratified two different versions of the contract, and it was LSU's fault that this happened, wouldn't this be an issue for LSU trying to enforce either version of the contract?
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:15 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
The Advocate has let stupid shite get run for years now. They did it during the whole Miles firing fiasco, too.
Our local media and fan base will overreact, and criticize, anything. It's incredible that people don't just allow a situation to play out and see the result before forming opinions.
Like I said, it's a witch hunt against the administration. They are losing every fight in t
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:22 pm to baybeefeetz
LSU and Chavis should have never gotten to this point, period. LSU was a scorned little bitch in pursuing this. Maybe they are right, maybe they aren't. I guess we'll find out, but you can't have much sympathy for Alleva as hep poked the mustachioed man.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:24 pm to LSU03
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I think the issue may be even bigger than that...It says it took the Board of Supervisors several months to ratify the contract, and in the interim, those changes were made. Given the fact that the two parties signed/ratified two different versions of the contract, and it was LSU's fault that this happened, wouldn't this be an issue for LSU trying to enforce either version of the contract?
They had a meeting of the minds on all the substance. That's it. End of story.
Contract. Done.
eta: Also, for all we know, the agreement that chavis signed says, :"The version of the agreement that the BOS approves is the version that is the real contract and anything before that is bullshite." I saw a commercial lease with something like that on it recently.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:26 pm to Pax Regis
Typical. No surprise.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 3:33 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
The real question is whether the alteration was relevant to the issues in dispute in the lawsuit
Agreed. It appears not, but does anyone know?
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