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re: LSU Admits it Altered Chavis Contract

Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by RUKidding
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:46 pm to
Yah The Advocate is just being a Negitiger.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:46 pm to
I thought we had some of the happiest cities in America?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:46 pm to
or, you could even e-mail the other and say, look, I did this. It odesn't make a difference. Do you agree? ANd if they agree, they might be ABLE to later claim your change isn't valid, but they probably won't, because hey, it didn't make a difference.

And the question is whether this difference is material to the issue at hand anyway.

Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

because they didn't want to look stupid for having a dumbass typo or random clip of a sentence that got in there by mistake. shite like that happens.

You don't pay a man millions of dollars and "tidy" up the contract without his acceptance.

It seems you have not signed many contracts.

I have signed contracts for much less and had to initial each change made to the contract.

If LSU did any differently, they were unprofessional!
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:47 pm to
happy when somebody is asking a polling question, but in life, miserable.

Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:47 pm to
Now THAT I believe
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:48 pm to
I deal with contracts every fricking day. I've done this kind of thing over e-mail numerous times.

If the other side had the contract and signed it, though, I wouldn't do it without some kind ogreement from the other side to apply the changed page to the rest of the unchanged pages and create an electronic version.

But I am talking about with the other side's consent.

Let me just say this for everybody's benefit: articles about legal shite are usually worthless. People run with the stories they read, but they typically don't have a good understanding, because the real facts/issues are often way too complicated or annoying to explain than people want to read in a newspaper. COnsider the reading level newspapers are written at versus the level legal briefs are written at.



This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

But I am talking about with the other side's consent.

Chavis never consented.......
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Well, there are two things clear in this thread.

1. Nobody except Mac actually read the article. The clauses of the contract that were changed are quoted in the article. So we should probably stop wondering what was changed.

2. There are a lot of armchair lawyers on tRant.



Derp

The article has been updated
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:51 pm to
Was LSU ever claiming that the altered version was the one Chavis signed?



Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:52 pm to
haha. good catch
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14801 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

quote:
Unilaterally changing contract terms is definitely unethical.
bullshite.


Give me an example where secretly and unilaterally altering the terms of a contract is ethical. And I'm not talking about your example of making notes in the margins or some crap. I mean changing material terms without the other party's knowledge.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7275 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:54 pm to
What terms of the contract were altered? It's the same contract terms but different wording of it.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
3261 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:54 pm to
2 things here. #1 does this change even make a difference. The change clarifies the dates. Gets rid of the unknown of did they mean the first of the 12th month or end of the 12th month. So did it matter anyway. Would have to see more of where this clause is from.
2nd was it told to Chavis that they were making this simple change. Is their email record etc.
Posted by Mrs. Amaro
Uptown Shreveport
Member since Nov 2004
3660 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:55 pm to
I'm done with all of them. Just fire them all and let's start the frick over...

Makes me sick.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

So the administration changed the buyout clause after Chavis signed the agreement. What the hell. Do we officially have the most inept athletic administration in the history of major college sports?


Did you even read the article you linked?

Three changes:

1) Changing the name of the LSU president/chancellor/whatever because a new guy took the office after Chavis signed and before it was approved by the BoS

2&3) Changing the designation of the buyout period from a span of numbered months to a specific day of each of the referenced months in two provisions

Neither change had any impact on the terms of the contract, the length or amount of the buyout or any other provision.

In addition, Chavis signed ANOTHER agreement a year after that which ratified the changes LSU made.

Also, incidentally, LSU, through a public records request, obtained a copy of a contract signed by Chavis and A&M in DECEMBER 2014, but Chavis and A&M are still claiming he wasn't hired by A&M until February. Note that the deadline for his buyout was January 31st.

Of these two developments, one seems MUCH more significant than the other, yet the bullshite one is the one that gets publicity? Typical.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6257 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Let me put this in simple terms for you


There you go again with that smarmy attitude.

The quote that you badly misinterpreted was from Chavis's lawyer. Of course they're going to assert that the contract was altered without his consent.

You came in with your usual "oh silly children, let me educate you" post that was incorrect as usual. Par for the course.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:55 pm to
it's a piece of paper. You can piss on it if you want to. You just can't change it and then try to enforce the changed terms or pass it off as teh agreed-to language.

Has LSU tried to do that?
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7275 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:56 pm to
That's typical from Dellenger tho.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

n addition, Chavis signed ANOTHER agreement a year after that which ratified the changes LSU made.

Also, incidentally, LSU, through a public records request, obtained a copy of a contract signed by Chavis and A&M in DECEMBER 2014, but Chavis and A&M are still claiming he wasn't hired by A&M until February. Note that the deadline for his buyout was January 31st.

Of these two developments, one seems MUCH more significant than the other, yet the bullshite one is the one that gets publicity? Typical.
Finally somebody in here with some fricking brains.

That original article was an abortion of an article. The write and Chavis's lawyer need to fricking kill themselves.
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