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Logic behind conference only schedule?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:30 pm
I don’t get it. Your going to crush the smaller schools. They can’t survive.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:39 pm to LifeTimeTiger2
A.) this has been talked about a ton, liberals don’t care
B.) you’re
B.) you’re
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:41 pm to LifeTimeTiger2
My understanding is this is because a conference can set a specific standard. For example, the same testing protocol, the same response to positive test and so on. It possible that a small school would ignore a positive test and let a star player play. Also testing is so expensive for a whole football team and staff, it is possible a small school could not afford to test up to standards...
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:47 pm to LifeTimeTiger2
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I don’t get it.
Money. They don't want to pay teams $750k+ to come play in an empty stadium when they're already going to be losing money this year if a season even happens.
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My understanding is this is because a conference can set a specific standard. For example, the same testing protocol, the same response to positive test and so on. It possible that a small school would ignore a positive test and let a star player play. Also testing is so expensive for a whole football team and staff, it is possible a small school could not afford to test up to standards...
IMO, this isn't the real reason. It just sounds better for PR
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:52 pm to lsufball19
They will be losing money when the networks can’t televise their conference games.
Attendance and 3 out of 4 OOC games are peanuts compared to what the schools divide up from the SEC contracts w the networks
Attendance and 3 out of 4 OOC games are peanuts compared to what the schools divide up from the SEC contracts w the networks
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:00 pm to wahoocs
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They will be losing money when the networks can’t televise their conference games.
They'll lose money from everything. They're cutting the fat where they can. You can bet your arse ESPN will not want to pay out the entirety of those deals losing 4 OOC games per team since all of our games are televised. IIRC we gross about $2MM in revenue per home game just from concessions and the like. That's gone. Think about all the advertising that's paid for on gameday. That's gone. Think about all the sales at shops around campus. That's gone too. Without fans on campus this fall, those TV contracts aren't going to offset the lack of revenue everywhere else. It's not cheap running a football program, especially one as big as LSU's. We have huge coaching salaries, facilities, trainers, nutritionists, cooks, doctors, etc. They are going to do everything they can to save money where they can. Getting rid of OOC games is a quick way to save several million dollars.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:53 pm to lsufball19
I feel bad for schools like UTSA.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:07 pm to LesnarF5
There’s no logic. Where is the NCAA in all of this? What do they get paid for? Ensure that all schools are operating under the same guidelines or they get disqualified, pretty damn simple. And fund it!
This is how stupid this is....
The SEC stretches from Texas to Missouri to South Carolina
The Big 12 from Kansas to West Virginia
The Big 10 from Nebraska to New Jersey/Maryland.......
It’s insane. NCAA needs to step in for once and make up regional schedules IMO.
This is how stupid this is....
The SEC stretches from Texas to Missouri to South Carolina
The Big 12 from Kansas to West Virginia
The Big 10 from Nebraska to New Jersey/Maryland.......
It’s insane. NCAA needs to step in for once and make up regional schedules IMO.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:22 pm to Dlab2013
Big schools don’t want to pay Little Sisters of the Poor 3 million dollars to play a home game that they can’t make a revenue/profit from off of the gate/concessions/parking etc.
That’s what it’s about.
You really don’t know how this works. The NCAAs power comes from its member institutions. At the end of the day, the NCAA isn’t going to mandate what conferences do in this situation.
That’s what it’s about.
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There’s no logic. Where is the NCAA in all of this? What do they get paid for?
You really don’t know how this works. The NCAAs power comes from its member institutions. At the end of the day, the NCAA isn’t going to mandate what conferences do in this situation.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:45 am to LifeTimeTiger2
Save money on rent a wins. They know that fans will not be allowed so they won’t have money from ticket sales and concessions and parking coming in.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:27 am to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
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Also testing is so expensive for a whole football team and staff,
This is ignorant statement considering they are giving test for free around the country
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:08 am to LifeTimeTiger2
The only logic is the money.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:25 am to LifeTimeTiger2
Cancelling out-of-conference games is the only sensible thing to do to prevent the spread.
Take Nebraska for example. There's no reason to risk the entire team's health hosting South Dakota State when they can rest assured of complete safety when they (... checks schedule ...) travel to New Jersey to play Rutgers.
Take Nebraska for example. There's no reason to risk the entire team's health hosting South Dakota State when they can rest assured of complete safety when they (... checks schedule ...) travel to New Jersey to play Rutgers.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:40 am to LifeTimeTiger2
I don't think the rent a win schools can afford to play with empty stadiums. They barely make money without the virus.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:50 am to LifeTimeTiger2
There is no logic behind it or anything that the gummints are doing to the economy and personal liberty.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:18 am to LifeTimeTiger2
A couple reasons. Most of which have already been said about money.
The biggest is by dumping some of the “less important” games on the schedule it opens up more bye weeks. It makes it easier to reschedule should a game need to be postponed.
The biggest is by dumping some of the “less important” games on the schedule it opens up more bye weeks. It makes it easier to reschedule should a game need to be postponed.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:47 am to LifeTimeTiger2
Money is # 1 reason. Schedule flexibility is another. If two schools have an outbreak you can easily reschedule their opponents to play and also even have makeup games.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:49 am to LifeTimeTiger2
scheduling flexibility
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:50 am to LifeTimeTiger2
Risk vs Reward
Same risk all games...
More (reward) money for Conference games.
Pretty sure that's where the logic terminates.
Same risk all games...
More (reward) money for Conference games.
Pretty sure that's where the logic terminates.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:14 am to wahoocs
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Attendance and 3 out of 4 OOC games are peanuts compared to what the schools divide up from the SEC contracts w the networks
There will certainly be some contractual issue to negotiate/litigate with respect to the decision. I.e. Are the TV networks still obligated to pay the full amount of the contract for the 2020 season if they can't air 3-4 games for each school. That said, the majority of the revenue generated by the football program comes from ticket sales/contributions...not the media rights (though that is a significant sum)
I suspect the SEC and LSU have crunched those numbers relative to what the financial loss would be by paying 6 figure sums to schools to play in an empty stadium (or significantly reduced attendance)
ALL schools are going to see a big reduction in overall revenue this year (some more than others), and they are doing what they can to mitigate those losses. Without being able to sell tickets to games vs. Nicholls and UTSA, those games are big financial losses. Another loss would be if the game vs. Rice was canceled (and it is likely Rice was going to try to get out of that one). Finally, the BIG benefit of the Texas game was a sellout home crowd paying a premium ticket price for that game. Given the chance, LSU desperately wants to play that game in a season where they can sell out Tiger Stadium vs. minimal capacity in 2020. It makes too much financial sense for LSU to push that game to different year if they can.
The little schools need the payout from big schools to fund their budgets. But the big schools are only willing to pay those amounts because they know the attendance will make up for it. Without fans, those crappy non-conf. games have no financial benefit for either side.
Just chalk it up as consequence number 1,345,458 of the short-sighted thinking to completely shut down in order to save a relatively small amount of the population
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