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re: Letter to the Advocate editor regarding Jordan Jefferson
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:37 am to Chris Warner
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:37 am to Chris Warner
I think it is a matter of looking after the team rather than Jefferson. Having him back on the team, while perhaps fairer to Jefferson, risks too much for the team as a whole.
Having him back on the team is a distraction the team right now. Plus, you need to throw your support 101% behind Lee right now. Putting Jefferson back on the team - at least to me - could be taken by Lee as an indication that their hopes still rest on his shoulders.
By suspending Jefferson, it shows to the rest of the team that this will not be tolorated, and it shows to Lee that this is now HIS team.
That's my two and a half cents worth.
Having him back on the team is a distraction the team right now. Plus, you need to throw your support 101% behind Lee right now. Putting Jefferson back on the team - at least to me - could be taken by Lee as an indication that their hopes still rest on his shoulders.
By suspending Jefferson, it shows to the rest of the team that this will not be tolorated, and it shows to Lee that this is now HIS team.
That's my two and a half cents worth.
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Posted on 9/1/11 at 10:36 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
So if a player 'allegedly' shoots and kills someone, we can't suspend him until his conviction? Is that what we are saying now?
He was charged with a felony! That can't go without any sort of discipline from football. He's still on scholarship and in school. It's not like his life is over...he still has his...gasp....degree after this year.
AGREE 100%
Playing football is not a right. It is a privledge.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 10:41 am to Chris Warner
This is the best thing Warner has even written.
Even though the article appears to be steeped Warner's own frat history and the knowledge that he was probably involve in a lot worse than the Duke Lacrosse team.
Still, a tip of the hat, well done, sir.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 10:45 am to willeteal
how is this horrific piece of crap thread still around. this "letter" is a horrible display of just how frickin' stupid Chris Warner really is.
I thought that Chicken fired this loser.
I thought that Chicken fired this loser.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 10:50 am to hashtag
Tell us how you really feel.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 11:27 am to junkfunky
quote:
Arguing that you know more about the quarterbacks, the team and football in general compared to Les.
Just like nobody knew more than DiNardo/Saban about the quarterbacks when they were starting Booty over Davey? Well guess what, Davey was the better quarterback and he was riding the pine. Hal Hunter knew, a lot of fans knew, but the head coaches didn't know.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 11:27 am to Chris Warner
quote:
routine bar fracas
That's a bit facile.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 11:38 am to Tiger JJ
Would you have written the same type of letter if instead of Jordan Jefferson (Starting QB for the football team) it would have been Joe Hill (player on the LSU men's tennis team)?
Posted on 9/1/11 at 11:42 am to Random LSU Hero
quote:
Would you have written the same type of letter if instead of Jordan Jefferson (Starting QB for the football team) it would have been Joe Hill (player on the LSU men's tennis team)?
As ill-informed as the letter is, this post is completely irrelevant. His point is that the JJ issue is being mishandled because of his fame. Obviously that wouldn't be the case with Joe Hill because he is not famous.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 11:43 am to Chris Warner
Joe Alleva and Les Miles know far more about the situation than 99% of us on this board, they had no choice but suspend
Posted on 9/1/11 at 11:55 am to deepdeltatiger
quote:
Joe Alleva and Les Miles know far more about the situation than 99% of us on this board, they had no choice but suspend
I agree that arrested=suspension. But, as an administrator, once you have time to review the details you can then decide the best penalty for the student athlete based on the situation. If the evidence continues to come in and it continues to appear JJ is not guilty you should reconsider the suspension, just as Chip Kelly is doing for the Oregon LB who is a repeat offender.
I also feel that the entire situation would have been handled differently for a different more fan popular student athlete. For example if Mikie Mahtook would have been arrested in a bar fight during baseball season, the media, Alleva, et al would have presumed innocent from the get go, not because of skin color, but because he is such a great kid and never done anything wrong.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:01 pm to willeteal
quote:
This is the best thing Warner has even written.
Actually, in terms of being an essay written in the form of a "letter to the editor", it's pretty much a piece of crap.
I'd lay odds that an objective English 1003 instructor wouldn't give Warner any better than a 'C' on it. In fact, it comes across as being very much like something submitted by an LSU freshman, rather than a PhD.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:04 pm to lctiger
quote:
because he is such a great kid and never done anything wrong.
That's the damn shame. Prior to this whole thing, JJ was a great kid who did no wrong (off the field, for the haters). His worst attribute was wearing his emotions on his sleeve and acting defensive.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:34 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:
Just like nobody knew more than DiNardo/Saban about the quarterbacks when they were starting Booty over Davey? Well guess what, Davey was the better quarterback and he was riding the pine. Hal Hunter knew, a lot of fans knew, but the head coaches didn't know.
We have no way of knowing if Davey would have been the best QB for that season. Heck, Craig Nall was the starter the first game of the year. Then, Josh Booty proceeded to be first team All SEC the following season. Heck, two completely different coaching staffs thought that Booty was better than Davey. He probably was. Davey had a better season a year later.
But, he could have had a much worse year than Booty had he been thrown into the fire earlier in his career.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:40 pm to TheSexecutioner
Pardon me if I don't respect the opinion of someone name "TheSexecutioner" LOL. Besides the question was directed at the author of the post/letter. And a simple yes or no would suffice.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:43 pm to LagdonCG
What the "good" doctor didn't mention is that while Jefferson maybe found innocent of criminal charges, he will face civil suits.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:49 pm to Slim
quote:
What the "good" doctor didn't mention is that while Jefferson maybe found innocent of criminal charges, he will face civil suits.
Is being sued against the student code?
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:56 pm to Chris Warner
quote:
Like in the Duke rape imbroglio, it is my belief that Jordan Jefferson, if found not guilty of battery by additional, exculpatory evidence put forth by his new attorney, Lewis Unglesby, has a possible ripe libel lawsuit in the making, as it appears that local law enforcement and the LSU brass, for whatever selfish motivation, have already rendered him guilty as charged.
LSU has not commented on his guilt or innocence. They have strictly state he is "suspended" while the legal proceedings are ongoing.
LSU seems to be in the clear.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 1:00 pm to Chris Warner
quote:
“We will not tolerate student athletes whose irresponsible actions tarnish the good name of a great university. LSU student athletes are expected to behave with the understanding that they represent their school, their fellow students and the long history of this program, regardless of the time of day.
so this comment by Alleva the morning after the incident is neutral?
looks to me like he is assuming guilt.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 9/1/11 at 1:08 pm to junkfunky
JJ' s problems started that night when he decided to break curfew and go to a bar. Without him to breaking curfew he has no problems started and the rest if the team wouldn't be paying for it. And, oh yea, the fans.
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