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Huck Finn
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Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Notes from Les Miles' call to Off the Bench this morning:

- Advice to Orgeron: "He needs to be less responsive." Basically, your team is what's most important, so don't sacrifice them to media sound clips.

- "Played with Swagger. Swagger is a confidence mixed with preparation."

- Never took the field thinking we wouldn't win. We always thought we would be kicking someone's tail.

- We knew it would be hard, but that's how we had prepared, and we were comfortable doing hard things.



How times have changed.


timlan2057
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.

Yet in his last few years, a lot of what he said there was “don’t do as I do, do as I say do.”


Huck Finn
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
I agreed that Les needed to go, but I still say that he handled about 90% of his job well.

He recruited great talent, hired good coaches usually, kept the team playing with a pretty consistent attitude, stood up for his guys, and was a good ambassador for the university.

If he could have just gone totally hands off with the offense and allowed the philosophy to evolve...


Alatgr
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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"Played with Swagger. Swagger is a confidence mixed with preparation."



Eh. The team looking really prepared wasn't really his hallmark, with one or two exceptions a season.


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PaperTiger
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Always appreciated miles. Class act.


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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.


in our wildest dreams none of us thought O would be the only alternative. i will admit i gave alleva waaaaaaayyy too much credit. i actually thought he had a functioning brain. shame on me.


geaux.home
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Advice to Orgeron: "He needs to be less responsive." Basically, your team is what's most important, so don't sacrifice them to media sound clips.
Sad that O needs to be told this by the coach LSU just fired.


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abellsujr
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Yeah, that all sounds like what is missing from the team.

I said this during the MSU game. The team is lacking the toughness and discipline culture that Miles brought. Or any good head coach really.

It's bad at it's core and O is responsible for that. He's responsible for establishing the culture.

It's all right there O pumpers. Listen to it.
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Swagger is a confidence mixed with preparation.
BOOM! There is a SERIOUS lack of preparation.
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idlewatcher
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.


This. Quite the paltry alternative for only a mere 1M less per year.


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AlxTgr
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative
Oh my God. Did you not follow the hiring process at all?


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boxcarbarney
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Man, I miss that crazy bastard. I never though I would say that. But, I never thought it could get this bad.


MottLaneKid
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
This might get Curley Golden Flake Hallman bad .


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SG_Geaux
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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I never thought it could get this bad.



I thought it could get this bad, but I sure in the hell never thought it would happen near instantly.


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AnotherRound
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
How the mighty have fallen.

Symmetry abounds.


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Old
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Always appreciated miles. Class act.

Reads like the Presidential Campaign 2016.


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Alt26
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.


Les would still be the coach at LSU if he wasn't so damn stubborn. It's sad and disheartening that if he would have just adapted to this era of football he could still be the coach. He genuinely had a passion for LSU (not initially, but it grew on him).

But I COMPLETELY agree. If Ogeron was going to be the ultimate hire, then LSU should have just kept Les. And that's not said with the benefit of hindsight. Everyone (or at least people with a brain) knew what LSU was getting with Ogeron. Alleva thought he was smarter than everyone in the room and he was going to orchestrate a coup to get Jimbo Fisher and be the "savior" of LSU football. Instead, he got exposed as a complete fool two consecutive years.

If you are going to make a big move such as firing the most successful coach in school history (which was arguably warranted if LSU wanted to be a NC contender again), then you go "all in". If Fisher was your guy, then you meet every demand to make SURE he is your head coach. Same with Herman.

Stupid arse Joe leveraged himself out of any bargaining power with both Fisher and Herman then tried to negotiate with them as if he had any real leverage. Simply put, you either make them offers they can't refuse or stand down and keep your HC. But alas, Joe refused to get into "bidding wars" for two successful HC's just so he could get into a bidding war WITH HIMSELF for a coach no one wanted.

The level of business incompetence is staggering.


Old
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' cultureNotes from Les Miles' call to Off the Bench this morning:


I forget which CFB programs have interviewed Les Miles for extended employment as their head coach? Michigan might if Jim Harbaugh were to vacate perhaps?
This post was edited on 10/6 at 9:29 am


km
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Didn't prepare too hard for bama. If fact, the coaches should give back their pay checks for that two week hiatus.


lsupride87
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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I forget which CFB programs have interviewed Les Miles for extended employment as their head coach?
About 10x more than O


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BilJ
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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
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"He needs to be less responsive." Basically, your team is what's most important, so don't sacrifice them to media sound clips.


O and DP ran their campaign on the platform of telling people what they wanted to hear. So O is still trying to do that, only when faced with actual adversity this time around its impossible to do.
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