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Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture

Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2454 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:45 am
Notes from Les Miles' call to Off the Bench this morning:

- Advice to Orgeron: "He needs to be less responsive." Basically, your team is what's most important, so don't sacrifice them to media sound clips.

- "Played with Swagger. Swagger is a confidence mixed with preparation."

- Never took the field thinking we wouldn't win. We always thought we would be kicking someone's tail.

- We knew it would be hard, but that's how we had prepared, and we were comfortable doing hard things.



How times have changed.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16749 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:47 am to
Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.

Yet in his last few years, a lot of what he said there was “don’t do as I do, do as I say do.”
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2454 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:52 am to
I agreed that Les needed to go, but I still say that he handled about 90% of his job well.

He recruited great talent, hired good coaches usually, kept the team playing with a pretty consistent attitude, stood up for his guys, and was a good ambassador for the university.

If he could have just gone totally hands off with the offense and allowed the philosophy to evolve...
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:58 am to
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"Played with Swagger. Swagger is a confidence mixed with preparation."



Eh. The team looking really prepared wasn't really his hallmark, with one or two exceptions a season.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22932 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:00 am to
Always appreciated miles. Class act.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29117 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:01 am to
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.


in our wildest dreams none of us thought O would be the only alternative. i will admit i gave alleva waaaaaaayyy too much credit. i actually thought he had a functioning brain. shame on me.
Posted by geaux.home
North Shore
Member since Jan 2012
2666 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:01 am to
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Advice to Orgeron: "He needs to be less responsive." Basically, your team is what's most important, so don't sacrifice them to media sound clips.
Sad that O needs to be told this by the coach LSU just fired.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35245 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:03 am to
Yeah, that all sounds like what is missing from the team.

I said this during the MSU game. The team is lacking the toughness and discipline culture that Miles brought. Or any good head coach really.

It's bad at it's core and O is responsible for that. He's responsible for establishing the culture.

It's all right there O pumpers. Listen to it.
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Swagger is a confidence mixed with preparation.
BOOM! There is a SERIOUS lack of preparation.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78824 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:04 am to
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.


This. Quite the paltry alternative for only a mere 1M less per year.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81581 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:05 am to
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative
Oh my God. Did you not follow the hiring process at all?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22699 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:10 am to
Man, I miss that crazy bastard. I never though I would say that. But, I never thought it could get this bad.
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:13 am to
This might get Curley Golden Flake Hallman bad .
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77914 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:14 am to
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I never thought it could get this bad.



I thought it could get this bad, but I sure in the hell never thought it would happen near instantly.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:16 am to
How the mighty have fallen.

Symmetry abounds.
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:18 am to
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Always appreciated miles. Class act.

Reads like the Presidential Campaign 2016.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28193 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:22 am to
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.


Les would still be the coach at LSU if he wasn't so damn stubborn. It's sad and disheartening that if he would have just adapted to this era of football he could still be the coach. He genuinely had a passion for LSU (not initially, but it grew on him).

But I COMPLETELY agree. If Ogeron was going to be the ultimate hire, then LSU should have just kept Les. And that's not said with the benefit of hindsight. Everyone (or at least people with a brain) knew what LSU was getting with Ogeron. Alleva thought he was smarter than everyone in the room and he was going to orchestrate a coup to get Jimbo Fisher and be the "savior" of LSU football. Instead, he got exposed as a complete fool two consecutive years.

If you are going to make a big move such as firing the most successful coach in school history (which was arguably warranted if LSU wanted to be a NC contender again), then you go "all in". If Fisher was your guy, then you meet every demand to make SURE he is your head coach. Same with Herman.

Stupid arse Joe leveraged himself out of any bargaining power with both Fisher and Herman then tried to negotiate with them as if he had any real leverage. Simply put, you either make them offers they can't refuse or stand down and keep your HC. But alas, Joe refused to get into "bidding wars" for two successful HC's just so he could get into a bidding war WITH HIMSELF for a coach no one wanted.

The level of business incompetence is staggering.
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:26 am to
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Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' cultureNotes from Les Miles' call to Off the Bench this morning:


I forget which CFB programs have interviewed Les Miles for extended employment as their head coach? Michigan might if Jim Harbaugh were to vacate perhaps?
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:29 am
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:45 am to
Didn't prepare too hard for bama. If fact, the coaches should give back their pay checks for that two week hiatus.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94800 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:51 am to
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I forget which CFB programs have interviewed Les Miles for extended employment as their head coach?
About 10x more than O
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158719 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:57 am to
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"He needs to be less responsive." Basically, your team is what's most important, so don't sacrifice them to media sound clips.


O and DP ran their campaign on the platform of telling people what they wanted to hear. So O is still trying to do that, only when faced with actual adversity this time around its impossible to do.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 10:00 am
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