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re: Les is NOT a gambler...

Posted on 9/21/08 at 10:42 am to
Posted by LSUMONSTER
DALLAS,TX
Member since Oct 2005
2917 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 10:42 am to
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Do you think Les' reputation is the reason that Tubbs called a time out prior to one of our field goal attempts. Maybe he thought it was a fake.


You nailed it here.

AU outside rushers stepped back on both sides and looked at FG kick instead of rushing in.

Les did get in opponent's head. I love it.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
6039 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 10:42 am to
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I think he just plays to win the game. He is not someone who plays "not to lose."


Exactly! How many teams lose their edge playing not to lose. Miles just wants to win the game. I have a feeling Miles knows better than anyone you gotta go for the jugular. He has been bitten in the past sitting on leads and letting his teams relax in the texas and tenn come backs.
Posted by cosmicdingo
Springhill, La.
Member since Mar 2006
2173 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 10:43 am to
You wanna win, you gotta take chances sometimes, ask Bobby Bowden.
Posted by LSUmikeVI
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
20 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 10:47 am to
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Les did get in opponent's head. I love it


Les is getting an awesome reputation. I love that he is now being recognized as the crazy caller. Everyone is all upset about him being called crazy and a gambler.

But who cares? I like being the crazy's who win and kick NCAA top ten teams arse...SEC arse!
Posted by NC2007
Chicageaux
Member since Aug 2007
443 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:07 am to
Keep gambling Les (37-6), maybe Les has a good feel for his team...LSU has a ton of talent...News media talks about Alabama's and Miami's young talent...LSU does not have to play freshman, becuase we are loaded...Les has been a great recruiter, kids are excited to play for him and he goes for the kill...Field Goals are not automatic...
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:09 am to
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making smart % plays doesn't make him a gambler

especially with how vanilla he wants our offense and defense to be for most of games



Well, some plays aren't smart percentage.

-The late Flynn throw to the end zone last year.
-The onside kick is never a % play.


There's others. If you are referring to the throw to Lafell for the game winning TD last night, then I agree. There was about nothing to lose on that play. Safe route. Easy throw. Even if we take a sack, still in FG range.
Posted by mmtiger
South Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:12 am to
To some extent, I really dont understand why the critics and the "people in the know" do not give les miles the respect he deserves. I just believe he is one of the top three coaches in college football. He makes outstanding administrative moves and always upgrades when a coach leaves.

The only thing i could think why he isnt held in the highest company of coaches is that he is not a "self promoter". Saban is almost exclusively a self promoter. He has had success, but not like miles. I take les over saban any day.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:14 am to
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I think he just plays to win the game. He is not someone who plays "not to lose."


Yeah, this is fantastic. Last night my buddy and I talked about how under Jimbo we would have gone conservative and probably not a had a chance to make those big throws to win that game. Miles' trust of Crowton and Crowton's willingness and understanding of how and when to throw make this offense dynamic.

Another thing I love about our offense, is that we quietly rack up tons of yards. We rolled up 400 yards of offense against a stellar D... and that was after a really quiet first half. I'm guessing we had about 320 second half yards.
Posted by mmtiger
South Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:17 am to
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Yeah, this is fantastic. Last night my buddy and I talked about how under Jimbo we would have gone conservative and probably not a had a chance to make those big throws to win that game.


Regarding Jimbo, check out florida state's offensive production yesterday.
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:25 am to

Exactly right.

76% conversion rate on fourth downs is not gambling.


Meyer went for it on fouth and 10 from his own 30 in the 3rd quarter last year down 7. That's gambling.


Math analysis has shown that coaches should go for it more often than kicking long field goals or punting.

Miles is playing the percentages.



Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:30 am to
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Regarding Jimbo, check out florida state's offensive production yesterday.


No kidding. Dude certainly benefitted from all the talent we had...
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4533 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:31 am to
OP is exactly right.

People to this very day still criticize P Carroll as not the best X's and O's guy. But he recruits his arse off and he has his players totally buying into what he's doing.

Miles' players would run through a wall for him. They love him. Miles trusts them 100%.
Posted by mmtiger
South Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:32 am to
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No kidding. Dude certainly benefitted from all the talent we had...


Oh yeah. Perriloux will be saying the same thing. when you have a great offensive line, backs, and receivers, its pretty easy to look good. Without them, well, "lets see how good you really are at your position..." (second person used only demonstratively)
Posted by z1311
Yankee-ville
Member since Apr 2007
359 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:34 am to
Hell.

LSU-South Carolina last year. The "no-look" over the shoulder Colt David TD run. How is that NOT gambling?
Posted by mmtiger
South Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:35 am to
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Hell.

LSU-South Carolina last year. The "no-look" over the shoulder Colt David TD run. How is that NOT gambling?


IMO, there is a huge difference between "gambling" and "unconventional play". I think Miles and Crowton are innovative, not gamblers.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4533 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:39 am to
Have you ever noticed that hardly anyone ever rushes our FG kicker anymore?

Its great that the fake vs SC last season worked...but that decision regardless of results is still paying dividends. David had a record year last year and i think that those fake FG's are a big part of that.
Posted by mmtiger
South Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:40 am to
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Have you ever noticed that hardly anyone ever rushes our FG kicker anymore?


EXACTLY!
Posted by DeeRick29
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
215 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 11:45 am to
Les pulls those plays when they are least expected. But I trust him now when I see some crazy play unfolding. It always seems to work.
Posted by mikethetiger
Member since Nov 2004
1879 posts
Posted on 9/21/08 at 12:00 pm to
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there are very few, if any, coaches who make that last touchdown pass. We're in easy fieldgoal range, first down, with one minute left.


Doesn't that explain why that pass worked so good in that situation. Tubby and his defense didn't expect it, just like the last offensive pass last year. Isn't that basically what every play in a game is about. Try to outsmart the opposing teams defense by doing things they don't expect you to do. Perfect example, is the play action pass. The defense sees the fake hand off and bites, buying your receivers just that extra bit of time and seperation needed to complete the pass. Bottom line, a play will work if the other team doesn't expect it.

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Run the ball, force auburn to burn all their timeouts, kick the field goal, and go home.



If we don't get a first down during those last 3 timeouts, then they would have still had time for their last series. And they would only need to drive to within field goal range to win the game, not having to drive the entire field for a touchdown like last night. And that is assuming we make the field goal.
This post was edited on 9/21/08 at 12:03 pm
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