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re: LB Jabril Cox says Pelini isn’t to blame for the defensive struggles
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:07 pm to Imber
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:07 pm to Imber
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We had two returning starters on offense and they are playing well. It's coaching.
the offense changed?
When an offensive player runs the wrong route, runs the wrong way, misses a block, etc is that on coaching also?
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:16 pm to Topwater Trout
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the offense changed?
Arkansas who’s been the laughing stock of the sec has a brand new coaching staff and scheme on defense and they look much better than us. That’s with dog shite recruiting classes. So once again, with the talent we have on defense and players who played last year and looked good; Stingley, Flott, Clark, Hampton, Stevens, Ferrell, Logan to name a few. Now all of a sudden they suck???
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:56 pm to The Pirate King
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LB Jabril Cox says Pelini isn’t to blame for the defensive struggles
This is leadership.
I don't know if this will help at all, but any hope the defense has is for players like this to stand up and buy in. Frankly, this is something that Jacoby Stephens should have be doing.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:01 pm to The Pirate King
If one or two guys are out of position, that’s one thing. When the entire defense looks lost, that’s coaching.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:17 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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When the entire defense looks lost, that’s coaching.
are you saying the entire defense looks lost?
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:25 pm to Topwater Trout
A lot of the defense looks lost.
Like the DL doesn’t because you have to be orettt fricking stupid to look lost on the DL. But they aren’t exactly dominating.
The DBs and Lb look lost a lot.
Like the DL doesn’t because you have to be orettt fricking stupid to look lost on the DL. But they aren’t exactly dominating.
The DBs and Lb look lost a lot.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:27 pm to The Pirate King
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Defenses across the country are struggling, including many of the big boys. Breaking in a new defensive scheme and inexperienced players on a shortened season with limited prep time and no warmup games is next to impossible
That's funny, because Arkansas, aTm, and Kentucky had no issue stopping Mississippi State.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:29 pm to SammyTiger
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A lot of the defense looks lost. Like the DL doesn’t because you have to be orettt fricking stupid to look lost on the DL. But they aren’t exactly dominating. The DBs and Lb look lost a lot.
my point is unless you know the call you have no idea as a fan...except when a wr streaks between a cb and safety and one points at the other. Idk who coaches lbs but secondary coaches haven't changed so how is everyone blaming the coaches...or is the only blame on Pelini
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:31 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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That's funny, because Arkansas, aTm, and Kentucky had no issue stopping Mississippi State.
we are a man to man team and it killed us with our best one being out and some younger guys playing terribly. Ark and UK play a lot of zone. UK has had a good defense for a while. They also had film of what not to do vs MSU.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:33 pm to Topwater Trout
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except when a wr streaks between a cb and safety and one points at the other.
I was going to say, I dont Think any call involves a WR streaking downfield completely uncovered.
We were also having a ton of confusion with all the shifts.
The fricking Matt Canadaed is to death.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:36 pm to Topwater Trout
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we are a man to man team and it killed us with our best one being out and some younger guys playing terribly. Ark and UK play a lot of zone.
It was no secret to anyone that you needed to at least mix in some zone to stop Leach's offense. With, or without, Stingley it would have been necessary.
Who does the blame fall on for getting torched in man all game and never adjusting one single bit?
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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When an offensive player runs the wrong route, runs the wrong way, misses a block, etc is that on coaching also?
When it happens once or twice, probably not on coaching. When you get torched for 600 yards against a crappy QB, and then can't stop Mizzou, then yes there is a problem with coaching.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:50 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I think we tried to go with what our strength would be and that is man. People have already said some guys weren't grasping zone in MSU game. So wtf would you do as a coach with inexperienced guys not knowing how to play zone?
our coverage wasn't terrible on many of their plays
our coverage wasn't terrible on many of their plays
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:50 pm to Topwater Trout
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Idk who coaches lbs but secondary coaches haven't changed so how is everyone blaming the coaches...or is the only blame on Pelini
Well the coverages have changed.
Honestly We didn’t play 2 high safeties anywhere near as much last year.
And the Lbs are constantly getting pulled outside by RB and TEs. Clarke is not good in coverage.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:30 pm to SammyTiger
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Well the coverages have changed. Honestly We didn’t play 2 high safeties anywhere near as much last year.
I know so do we blame the players for not learning the new coverages or the secondary coaches for not teaching them? I think it has to be more the players not learning and no qb on the defense making sure everyone knows their responsibility...which I think is part of learning a new scheme
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Clarke is not good in coverage.
I agree. seems slow to react
Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:57 pm to Topwater Trout
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I know so do we blame the players for not learning the new coverages or the secondary coaches for not teaching them?
Both?
Players need to learn their assignments but coaches need to realize what coverages we do and don’t know and maybe not change too much up from last year without a spring camp.
Honestly backend coverages shouldn’t have to change that much with a 3-4 and a 4-3. Short of dropping Chaisson into coverage (rare) we still basically had 4 passrushers 2 LB and 5 DBs.
But it’s not ALL Bo.
It’s everything
Play calling
New scheme
Lack of experience and depth
Gutted talent pool.
Execution
So control what you can. That’s all you can ask the coaches.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:17 pm to Topwater Trout
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People have already said some guys weren't grasping zone in MSU game.
LSU calls themselves DBU. Are you telling me they don't have DBs that can "grasp" a zone defense?
In your attempt to make excuses for the coaching staff, you are continuously pointing directly at the coaching staff as the people to blame.
Look the defense has sucked. The players haven't played great, the coaches haven't done a good job of preparing them. There is no excuses, no justification for it AT ALL. This shouldn't happen to an LSU defense ever. Period.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:33 pm to The Pirate King
Like Coach Jones, Coach Pelini makes a convenient scapegoat.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:37 pm to chinhoyang
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Like Coach Jones, Coach Pelini makes a convenient scapegoat
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:48 pm to lsupride87
quote:Yeah, they just don't wanna come right out and say something like that because it would show a breakdown in the chain of communication and lack of respect for coaches. In other words insubordination in the ranks, that's why everyone in Cowboy land is so angry now with what happened this past week.
You think it would be better or a player to say "Yeh, its the coaches fault"
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 7:52 pm
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