re: Key decides not to run 40

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I just don't think he wanted to run the 40 because he knows he is not going to show a very fast time. His verticle jump and broad jump results are very similar to guys who are much heavier than him and who run the 40 around the 4.9 range. For his size that would be a terrible time in the 40. Just doesn't show much explosiveness or quick twitch in those two events so wouldn't expect him to be explosive out of the blocks and through the 40.

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Long strider. His 40 will be fine

I would want no part of him.

You are correct !

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god help you if you actually believe this

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With all due respect, you are sooo wrong.

These guys have been playing football their entire life. They have been working on fast twitch exercises, agility, speed, drills, strength, power, etc, since God knows when.

Arden has played with his hand on the ground for a large part of his career. It's asinine to think he needs an unreasonable amount of time to prepare for the 40.

Btw, haven't we been told that he's been training? So WTF has he been doing?

Yes the start is important in the 40. And yes you could train it (if your technique is horrible) and get a little better in it. But for Arden, if he was in peak condition (which he obviously isn't), it might help him by hundreths. But do you think NFL teams care about the difference between 4.62 and 4.67?

The fact is, he is not in peak condition. He hasn't been in a long time. This isn't about technique, it's about being big, fat, lazy, and out of peak shape. If he was in peak shape, or close to it, he would have run it.

I was a swimmer in college. At 6'3, 215 in my last year, I had never trained to run. Yes I played basketball and flag football and pretty much everything. But never "trained" to run. I tried out for a arena football team and spent 2 hours learning to do a 40 start and ran a 4.62. I also benched 225 18 times (beside the point). Anyway, if I can do that after 2 hours, and he's spent his entire life on explosive running, he certainly shouldn't need more than a few days to dial in a start that would deliver a reasonable outcome.

Yeah, if he was an elite runner trying to be world class in the 60m, I could see how months or years are needed to perfect the start to run elite level. But not to run 4.5-4.8.

Its simply a matter of him being in poor condition and is completely not about technique.

People continue to make excuses for him. I hope he gets it together, but it doesn't look promising. I certainly wouldn't risk a pick on him until at least the 4th or 5th round (if we were judging him today).

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Btw, haven't we been told that he's been training? So WTF has he been doing?

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If he was in peak shape, or close to it, he would have run it.

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If he wasn't in peak shape, he wouldnt have done any drills, especially ones that are more important for Edge players than a fricking 40 yard dash. For instance the 3 cone drill.

The same scouts in Indy will see him in 1 month run the 40. It doesn't matter that LSU's surface will be fast; they all use their own stopwatches, just like they do at the combine. It's no different. Money is on the line. He obviously feels more comfortable doing it at his pro day.

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I certainly wouldn't risk a pick on him until at least the 4th or 5th round (if we were judging him today).

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stick to swimming, jackhole

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If he was in peak shape, or close to it, he would have run it.



If he wasn't in peak shape, he wouldnt have done any drills, especially ones that are more important for Edge players than a fricking 40 yard dash. For instance the 3 cone drill.

The same scouts in Indy will see him in 1 month run the 40. It doesn't matter that LSU's surface will be fast; they all use their own stopwatches, just like they do at the combine. It's no different. Money is on the line. He obviously feels more comfortable doing it at his pro day.

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I certainly wouldn't risk a pick on him until at least the 4th or 5th round (if we were judging him today).


stick to swimming, jackhole

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He's essentially had a year to get in shape. He's had a year knowing he would have to run the 40.

You keep pinning your thoughts on "hope" and based on his past performances. As I said, it may work out for him.

But it certainly has the feel that he's just working for a paycheck.

If he was in peak shape, as you say, there is NO reason why he wouldn't run the 40. NONE. The technique excuse is a very, very poor excuse and complete bullshite.

He didn't do as well and he'd hoped and scratched the 40 because he knew there would be even deeper questions.

Just call it what it is man. It doesn't mean you still aren't a fan, lol.

NOt to mention that I personally think there is much more technique involved in the 3 cone drill than the 40. IMO, it is much, MUCH harder. Maybe he got frustrated because Etling beat in it? LOL

And again, if he's in good shape, why didn't he bench? Was that a technique problem also?

Bumping this gold thread. Ree’s dumbass has some great quotes

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What exactly did you say in this thread that was so groundbreaking?

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I think this is mainly a 'laugh at the Key/O can do no wrong posters' bump.

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What exactly did you say in this thread that was so groundbreaking?

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I’m not pumping anything I said. Its a laugh at wrong posters thread.