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re: Jennings is Effective and Improving
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:04 am to Salviati
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:04 am to Salviati
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His interception on the pass to Dural was a good read but an unfortunate result. His interception on the pass to Quinn was a bad throw based on an inaccurate read.
This isn't true. His interception on the pass to Dural should never have been thrown. Ole Miss had that covered like a tent.
His interception to Quinn was due to two mistakes, one physical (insufficient arm strength) and one mental (he stared down Quinn which allowed the safety to abandon the deep route and attack Quinn).
AJ's insufficient arm strength is insurmountable in the NFL; in college he can easily be successful, but only if he doesn't telegraph those throws. He's getting there, but he has a way to go still.
The people who don't realize AJ is improving are missing this point. AJ's stats are the same as earlier in the season, but he's being asked to do more complex things. Eventually the complexity level will stop increasing, and you'll see his stats improve. I hope it's during the next two weeks.
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:05 am to OceanMan
Wut?
Wuts hard to understand that there are 60+ other QBs in college football capable of doing what he has done. His improvement is going from a 107 QB rating to a 145 to a 120.
If he had zero turnovers I would see no issue. However he has 5 picks to 8 TDs. In an offense totally reliant on ball control. Maybe we should just ignore the INT when he had a wide open Quinn and refused to throw the damn ball. Yes we won.. Great. But lets not act like we won because of great QB play. Rather we overcame poor QB play and turnovers to win.
Wuts hard to understand that there are 60+ other QBs in college football capable of doing what he has done. His improvement is going from a 107 QB rating to a 145 to a 120.
If he had zero turnovers I would see no issue. However he has 5 picks to 8 TDs. In an offense totally reliant on ball control. Maybe we should just ignore the INT when he had a wide open Quinn and refused to throw the damn ball. Yes we won.. Great. But lets not act like we won because of great QB play. Rather we overcame poor QB play and turnovers to win.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:09 am to BayouBengals03
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Oh yeah, because he couldn't do it against Auburn.
Harris played AT Auburn and had a 55 QBR. Jennings played at HOME against New Mexico State and had a -21 QBR. So Jennings is allowed one historically horrific game against a horrible team AT HOME. But Harris isn't provided the same chance because he went on the road against a top 5 team on his first start. A game that Jennings won the starting QB job back by going 5 for 10 with half his 80 yards on 1 play.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:10 am to Catman88
All I have to say is most QB's can hand the ball off 40+ times and complete 8-16 with 2 picks and easy roll out pass on the goal line (which was damn near over thrown). Harris def could do this.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:11 am to BayouBengals03
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The 2nd interception was a great play by the defensive back who was actually guarding the other receiver and broke off his coverage. It's not like Jennings didn't see the safety. It was a well thrown ball, just floated a little.
Ummm. No, it was horribly thrown and short by a mile. There is no way to defend either INT. Furthermore, deep in his own territory he nearly handed the game to Ole Miss with a near Pick 6 that he was lucky as hell the Ole Miss player dropped, and yet none of you people pumping him seem to care to acknowledge.
He's not very good and the only real thing he's improved on is the screen plays. He's always been able to throw a nice touch pass here and there, but his decision making isn't good enough to make up for the lack of zip he has on the ball.
In the end, his experience is the only reason he's in there, and whole I disagree with it, I understand the thinking from the coaches.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:11 am to BayouBengals03
I don't see any improving yet with Jennings. I think we need to stick with him this year because Les did not give Harris enough playing time before he started against Aub. I hope Harris does not get down & continuous competing for the job. I think he will be the starter next season.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:14 am to BayouBengals03
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Oh yeah? Because he couldn't do it against Auburn.
it was his first start. on the road. at auburn...
I don't think harris will get much playing time for the rest of the year, but I expect him to take over the position next spring.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:14 am to Catman88
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A game that Jennings won the starting QB job back by going 5 for 10 with half his 80 yards on 1 play.
And what percentage of harris' yards came on one play. Keep trying dude.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:15 am to Catman88
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However he has 5 picks to 8 TDs. In an offense totally reliant on ball control. Maybe we should just ignore the INT when he had a wide open Quinn and refused to throw the damn ball. Yes we won.. Great. But lets not act like we won because of great QB play. Rather we overcame poor QB play and turnovers to win.
Facts right here,,,Solid post..........
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:17 am to OceanMan
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And what percentage of harris' yards came on one play. Keep trying dude.
Are you still using only the Auburn game to downplay Harris? Really?
ETA: Take a look at these passing stats and tell me who gets more yards off one big play.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 9:20 am
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:19 am to Catman88
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Harris played AT Auburn and had a 55 QBR. Jennings played at HOME against New Mexico State and had a -21 QBR. So Jennings is allowed one historically horrific game against a horrible team AT HOME. But Harris isn't provided the same chance because he went on the road against a top 5 team on his first start. A game that Jennings won the starting QB job back by going 5 for 10 with half his 80 yards on 1 play.
What does that have to do with my comment?
People keep saying "omgggg why isn't Harris playing he can hand the ball off just as well!"
Well, a fumbled snap and turning the wrong way on th next handoff, which completely sabotaged two drives in a row early in the game, says differently.
Jennings knows the offense better, and I feel more comfortable with him in big games. If he struggles for a half, gladly put in Harris. He has the ability to make plays and bring us back in a game we are behind. But if you start Harris and he imploded (like against Auburn), it takes us completely out of the game.
Jennings is the answer, for now.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:19 am to dukke v
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Facts right here,,,Solid post..........
Heres another fact, we haven't lost a game he has thrown an int in.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:20 am to LNCHBOX
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Are you still using only the Auburn game to downplay Harris? Really?
Read the post I responded to. I am merely suggesting to use the same metrics to compare each player.
Eta: this is the kind of post that defines the rant. Pointing out a flaw in someone's argument does not mean one is supporting the opposing position.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:21 am to OceanMan
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Heres another fact, we haven't lost a game he has thrown an int in.
So Harris get's blamed for getting us close enough to win in the MSU game that he had to throw a hail mary?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:22 am to OceanMan
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Read the post I responded to
I did read it.
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I am merely suggesting to use the same metrics to compare each player.
Look at those stats I posted for you.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:24 am to BayouBengals03
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Well, a fumbled snap and turning the wrong way on th next handoff, which completely sabotaged two drives in a row early in the game, says differently.
Jennings fumbled a snap and threw two late game interceptions.
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Jennings is the answer, for now.
Just because
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:26 am to LNCHBOX
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ETA: Take a look at these passing stats and tell me who gets more yards off one big play.
I see the poster is correct that roughly 50% of Jennings' yards game from one pass. I also see that 90% of Harris' came from one pass in that game. How am I wrong here?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:28 am to LNCHBOX
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Heres another fact, we haven't lost a game he has thrown an int in.
So Harris get's blamed for getting us close enough to win in the MSU game that he had to throw a hail mary?
What does this even mean? Of course he doesn't get blamed. He had some great plats in that game.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:31 am to OceanMan
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What does this even mean? Of course he doesn't get blamed.
It means you hold that INT against him while trying to prop Jennings up by saying we haven't lost a game where AJ threw a pic.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:32 am to OceanMan
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I see the poster is correct that roughly 50% of Jennings' yards game from one pass. I also see that 90% of Harris' came from one pass in that game. How am I wrong here?
You're using one game brainiac. Look at the entire season.
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