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Jaden Hill ranked #4 overall in ESPN early prospect rankings

Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:39 pm
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Behind a high school shortstop and the two Vandy pitchers.

Two LSU commits listed at numbers 39 and 40. May be tough to get those two to school.

Dylan Crews listed #1 in the 2023 ranking, which doesn't mean a ton at this point...but does serve to back up the preliminary returns on the production to start the year.
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:50 pm to
He is ranked number 5 on MLB.com. They say he has a chance with a good year to be the 1st overall pick. On another note it is pretty awesome two African American pitchers will be selected top 10.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:51 pm to
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two African American pitchers


Why? If they’re good they’re good.
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:52 pm to
I am not going to derail the thread, but if you don't see the significance of that I am not explaining it.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Why? If they’re good they’re good.


Because "If they're good, they're good" hasn't always been the standard for black athletes as pitchers specifically.

Not necessarily in college, but in lower levels leading to an artificial reduction in the number of black pitchers in general.

Still kind of a big issue with catchers.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:56 pm to
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if you don't see the significance of that I am not explaining it.


I agree with him; why are you even noticing their race?
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:58 pm to
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I agree with him; why are you even noticing their race?


Because it's important for the game of baseball. Last comment about race I will respond to as I don't want this thread to go off the rails.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Because "If they're good, they're good" hasn't always been the standard for black athletes as pitchers specifically.


When was that?

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Still kind of a big issue with catchers.



Why?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:03 pm to
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When was that?


Probably since integration.

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Why?


There is always a push to move them to some other position to better take advantage of their perceived athleticism.

In the past, there was also an undercurrent of thought that the catcher position was too cerebral for black players to excel at it. Both the athleticism thing and the "cerebral" thing mirror past issues with black quarterbacks.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:04 pm to
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On another note it is pretty awesome two African American pitchers will be selected top 10.


Talent = talent. It shouldn't matter what their color is. If people would quit focusing on race, then we wouldn't have the division that we have in society today. Quit dividing people by race, we're all human, and we're all on this world together. Some just pitch better than others.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52748 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Probably since integration.


So at current day, black people aren't allowed at specific positions because of their race?

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There is always a push to move them to some other position to better take advantage of their perceived athleticism.


Is that racism? Isn't that simply taking advantage of a players skill set and putting him in the best position to fully utilize his skills?

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In the past, there was also an undercurrent of thought that the catcher position was too cerebral for black players to excel at it.


K, so how does that apply to today?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:06 pm to


Shut up.

Congratulations to Jaden Hill. He’s going to get paid and deserves it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:10 pm to
The frick is going on in here?
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
2848 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:12 pm to
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The frick is going on in here?


Extreme fragility.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:12 pm to
Jaden Hill isnt white so rantards have all turned into Cornel West
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:12 pm to
No white; no care
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:15 pm to
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The frick is going on in here?


I’m recounting known issues from baseball history and some people are uncomfortable with it.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:15 pm to
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I’m recounting known issues from baseball history and some people are uncomfortable with it.


Site needs a safe space board
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:16 pm to
I mean, it’s pretty cool that two AAs are top 10. Not sure why that sent off a rant. Do we not count Dominicans or does it have to be USA?
Posted by TheWalkoff
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:17 pm to
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