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It is easier to create than maintain
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:28 am
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:28 am
In business,sports,you name it. When you involve so many intangibles it takes a person who tears it down at the basic level and demands 100% effort and learning... it's obvious we ain't seeing ...but still love my tigas
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 6:35 am
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:40 am to pizzathehut
Just need to get a few seniors to return each year. LSU isn’t maintaining right now, they are starting over again.
ETA: frick we didn’t even get the juniors to return this year.
ETA: frick we didn’t even get the juniors to return this year.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 6:51 am
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:53 am to pizzathehut
It takes more work to create. But it takes more discipline to maintain.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:07 am to pizzathehut
What the heck happened to this team? Going 1-9 could set the program back for years.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:09 am to pizzathehut
That’s bullshite.
Saban created
Les maintained
O ha built it before, he can do it again.
Saban created
Les maintained
O ha built it before, he can do it again.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:10 am to pizzathehut
Not really. In CFB you have to maintain in order to create. If you think about it
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:46 am to pizzathehut
quote:
It is easier to create than maintain
This is 100% true.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:47 am to BlackAngus
The MONEY culture of the players today does not help.
A lot of them would be better served staying in school...
having said that, last year some who should have stayed, rode the momentum created by others.
This "chasing of the money" should start to be addressed on day one...you know the agents will push for them to leave.
A lot of them would be better served staying in school...
having said that, last year some who should have stayed, rode the momentum created by others.
This "chasing of the money" should start to be addressed on day one...you know the agents will push for them to leave.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:52 am to Solo Cam
quote:
Saban created
Les maintained
If Les maintained he would still be here. Les took over a program that was 9-4 the year before. It was not at national championship level, having only been competitive for it one year of the last three. Eventually Les would go five years in a row without being competitive once. That's not maintaining.
The OP is right. There are a lot of mediocre coaches who win a national championship because of some lucky confluence of talent and luck. There are not too many who stay at that level.
ETA: It's not the task of maintaining that is harder; in fact, that's easier. But when someone achieves greatness he starts to believe it is his due - it is his natural worthiness - that has caused this. He starts to listen to sycophants, who surround him and tell him how great he is. Suddenly his jokes are funnier, his observations are wiser. They are not, of course. But it's a rare person who is humble after reaching a pinnacle.
If you want a lesson on this, watch The Man Who Would be King starring Michael Caine and Sean Connery. It's based on the eponymous Rudyard Kipling book, and it is a fantastic movie.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:53 am to rbdallas
quote:
The MONEY culture of the players today does not help.
First and foremost - frick that. Good for these young men for putting themselves and their families first. This isn't a problem. Sorry the day and age has come where these men have realized their worth and don't care as much about playing free sports for your entertainment.
Secondly - What do you want the coaches to do about that? If coaches try to "address" against this, they will be perceived poorly by players (as they should). Coaches need to embrace this. Work with guys to try to get them to the league. It's the right thing to do in general as a human with a relationship with these guys, who wants what is best for their life. And, it builds goodwill. Players will respect you more for it and that matters to recruits coming up who talk to players and former players. If coaches pushed for players to stay, that can rub players the wrong way because the player knows the coach is looking out for their own selfish interest. We don't want that.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:04 am to Tigerfan56
It's easier to get good players to return when there is something to play for. Like Lawrence, he came back because of unfinished business and he wanted to win a title. All the guys last year were coming off the best season ever for a college program, AND they could get paid in the NFL. That's hard to overcome. We have recruited well and the players are young, let's give it some time before we throw the baby out with the bath water.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:23 am to Tigerfan56
quote:
First and foremost - frick that. Good for these young men for putting themselves and their families first. This isn't a problem. Sorry the day and age has come where these men have realized their worth and don't care as much about playing free sports for your entertainment.
if it was crippling the other top programs every other year, I might agree. but it's a problem that they don't seem to have.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 9:00 am to Solo Cam
quote:I give O full credit for bringing in Burrow and Brady, but 2019 may be a one-off.
O ha built it before, he can do it again.
Having one great season isn't really "building" anything - it's more of catching lightning in a bottle for one glorious season where the pieces all fell into place.
Building a program is where there's sustained high-level success. Time will tell.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/15/20 at 9:19 am to atltiger6487
quote:
these men have realized their worth and don't care as much about playing free sports for your entertainment.
God, I hate this argument. Chance of a FREE college education, Free food, Free Room and Board, Free Professional weight and skills training, Clothing, etc. Stop acting like these kids are being treated like the 1800s. It's a three year internship with a college degree program to get them ready for the NFL with a platform to promote their skills. Many will not make it that far, some will. It's not My fault or the NCAA that these kids do not see the value of the free college degree that I am still paying for.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 11:46 am to atltiger6487
quote:Because those were the only 2 guys that contributed to that season huh?
I give O full credit for bringing in Burrow and Brady, but 2019 may be a one-off.
He gets credit for:
Recruiting:
Joe Burrow
Justin Jefferson
Jamar Chase
Terrace Marshall
Thad Moss
Terrace Marshall
Sahdiq Charles
Damien Lewis
Austin Deculus
Derek Stingley
Klavin Chaisson
Grant Delpit
Patrick Queen
Jacob Phillips
Tyler Shelvin
Jacoby Stevens
Kary Vincent
He gets credit for retaining Aranda when A&M made a run at him
He gets credit for hiring James Cregg, Bill Busch and Joe Brady.
quote:So the season before when he won the fiesta bowl? That doesn’t count now?
Having one great season isn't really "building" anything
Rome isn’t built in a day. O lost everyone from a staff and team that he built.
Dabo’s first 3 years:
9-5
6-7
10-4
O’s first 3 years
9-5
10-3
15-0
Goddamn give the man a break, y’all lose a couple of games coming off the greatest season ever and are ready to blow it up.
Bo looks like an awful hire but has O not earned the right to make the next hire if Bo has to be fired?
Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:38 pm to pizzathehut
quote:
business,sports,you name it.
Yet in college football its the same teams over and over. The data does not support your feel good saying.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:45 am to Solo Cam
quote:I never said I'm ready to fire O. I merely said that one phenomenal year isn't really "building" a program if we don't maintain a very high level of play for numerous years.
O’s first 3 years
9-5
10-3
15-0
Goddamn give the man a break, y’all lose a couple of games coming off the greatest season ever and are ready to blow it up.
Ok, O's record his first 3 years were as you say. But O replaced a guy that went as below:
9-3
8-5
10-3
10-3
13-1
11-2
My earlier post merely pointed out that some coaches have caught fire and had a great year, but declined after that. Not saying it'll happen to O, but it's just a fact that it's happened to other premier football schools. And we don't want it to happen here.
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