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Is there any reason fans can’t crowdfund insurance policies for returning seniors?

Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:58 am
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4825 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:58 am
Hear me out...

If any players are questioning whether to return for their senior years, an insurance policy against injury would be an enticement for return. The player would receive no benefit until after he completes eligibility (via season-ending injury).

I know this wouldn’t work, but why wouldn’t it?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:59 am to
Player would have to sign the insurance policy though while still eligible.

Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37549 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:00 am to
quote:

I know this wouldn’t work, but why wouldn’t it?


Because the NCAA
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:00 am to
I'm no NCAA rules expert, but you really don't see the issue with a bunch of boosters (fans) purchasing an insurance policy for a player?
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10504 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:00 am to
I’m not spending money on a college player to return.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:04 am to
quote:

I know this wouldn’t work, but why wouldn’t it?


Why do YOU think it won't work?
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2916 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:05 am to
An insurable interest is required for insurance. The fans don't have one and cannot purchase it themselves. Therefore the policy would have to be purchased by the player or for the player. This is the same as giving the player the money to go buy an insurance policy. Thus, this is the same as giving a player money.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56289 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I'm no NCAA rules expert, but you really don't see the issue with a bunch of boosters (fans) purchasing an insurance policy for a player?



For arguments sake, what's the issue?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56289 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:09 am to
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An insurable interest is required for insurance.


The fans wouldn't be the beneficiary of the policy.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1206 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:10 am to
Fans don’t have an insurable interest in the player therefore the contract is unenforceable.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1206 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:12 am to
You can’t take out a policy on a player where you do not have an insurable interest in that player. It doesn’t matter if the player is the beneficiary.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:12 am to
it would be considered 'compensation'
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66277 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:12 am to
Fans can’t really purchase anything for an athlete.

An insurance policy most likely would be an impermissible benefit
Posted by asullivan12
Many, LA
Member since Nov 2015
1880 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:13 am to
quote:

An insurable interest is required for insurance. The fans don't have one and cannot purchase it themselves. Therefore the policy would have to be purchased by the player or for the player. This is the same as giving the player the money to go buy an insurance policy. Thus, this is the same as giving a player money.


This is incorrect. As a lawyer, I see some third party beneficiary contracts similar to these, but they are indeed rare
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:18 am to
quote:

For arguments sake, what's the issue?


An insurance policy is something of value.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:19 am to
Other than an illegal extra benefit paid by boosters (which you would automatically be when you provide a benefit) that would trigger SEC and NCAA penalties and maybe even an NCAA investigation of your school I don't see a problem.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14718 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:22 am to
These insurance policies aren’t some golden parachute if a guy gets hurt. They rarely pay out and when they do it useually is not a ton. They can compensate for dropping in the draft but not money lost down the road.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1206 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:25 am to
That’s pretty interesting. I hear it’s a mess and very hard to get the insurance company to pay claims.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25389 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:27 am to
Basically you want to try and bribe a 20 yr old kid to keep playing for the team you like?
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:28 am to
I'm pretty sure the player doesn't actually have to pay for the policy till his college career is over anyway, so they can pay for it with money off of his first contract/endorsement deal
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