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Yahoo Tape doesn't have Evidence 'Offer' was in Violations of NCAA Rules

Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:42 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:42 pm
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The tape does not reference any specifics about the “offer,” if the particulars of the “offer” violated NCAA rules, if the player and/or his mother ever knew of the “offer” or if anyone accepted whatever the “offer” was.


My suspicion, Wade will be vindicated when it is all and done.
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45136 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:45 pm to
Pretty funny how that small snippet is the only part of the transcript we got

You telling me there’s this whole entire arse conversation between Wade and this guy and they only wanna release part of it? Where’s the damning part? The talk about actual money?
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
2731 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:47 pm to
That would be some shite if they had access to the entire tape and released what they did because that was the worst of it.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:33 pm to
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That would be some shite if they had access to the entire tape and released what they did because that was the worst of it.


This is the MO of the modern clickbait media.
Posted by Tigerfly66
Member since Oct 2018
416 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:39 pm to
Wade knows what’s on the tape. And he accepted the suspension. This is fbi taps, not a muffled cam Newton audio. They want to make wade squirm in terms of how much is on the tape. Serious game of Russian roulette
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5932 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:10 pm to
Release the tape.

Name the source(s).

Until then it’s hearsay evidence.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Release the tape.

Name the source(s).

Until then it’s hearsay evidence.



Yep... That's what I've been arguing. The stuff involving Balsa was obviously read in a court room, so it's legit.

But at this point, there's no evidence that this recording is authentic... I mean it likely is, but reacting to the report is so premature
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1522 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:16 pm to
I’m 99% sure the source is an FBI wiretap... unless you’re referencing yahoos source
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5932 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:58 pm to
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I’m 99% sure the source is an FBI wiretap... unless you’re referencing yahoos source

Yahoo's source was alleged to be an FBI wiretap, disclosed to them by an anonymous, unnamed entity.

Yahoo neither named or quoted anyone associated with the alleged tape who can testify to its veracity, such as the FBI.

"Prove it" is not much of an ask when a coaches career and LSU basketball's fortunes are on the line.

Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
237 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:34 pm to
Has anyone denied the authenticity of the tape?
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11945 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:39 pm to
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The tape does not reference any specifics about the “offer,”

I love how dickie V is so appalled and disgusted the the “offer”, yet there are zero details about what the offer could be. Makes me think vitale must know wayyyy more about these kind of offers than most. How would he know so much about these offers? Hmmmm. But yeah wade is the embarrassment to college basketball, right dickie V?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Wade knows what’s on the tape. And he accepted the suspension.


We all agree that Wade knows what is on the tape. Wade also said this,

quote:

"I cannot comment at this time on various media reports, except to say that they do not begin to tell the full story. I understand the University had to take action before all the facts are in, but I would ask everyone to withhold their judgment until the record is complete.
Posted by PSUMMERS
Ms
Member since Sep 2014
386 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:14 pm to
The FBI did not leak the tapes who ever did it broke the law. As far as the reporter I don’t think FOIA applies to an open investigation. The anonymous source is the Defendents attorneys. They are trying to establish that the bad guys here are the Coaches and the shoe company’s and they are going to do it in the court of public opinion. If WW was the target of the investigation he would have long since been indicted

I am guessing more is going to get dropped at the appropriate times with the tournament approaching.
Those attorneys get paid to help their clients they gives a damn who gets burned in the process. Hopefully that’s all they had on WW and are moving on to bigger fish.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
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Where’s the damning part? The talk about actual money?

I don't think there is a damning part or talk of actual money. Wade said, "I have never done business with Christian Dawkins." If Wade did pay anybody he didn't go through Dawkins to do it. But there is no actual proof he did pay anybody. He said he made offers, but in both cases neither offer transpired. The media and the public are trying to ruin the joy of what this team has done when they have no proof he actually paid anybody. The NCAA has not proven nor investigated LSU or Will Wade and they have known this entire time everything on those tapes. Will said to wait until the full story comes out before making any judgements. I believe what remains will clear him of any serious wrong doing. If I'm wrong and LSU must forfeit any games and/or championships then I lose any and all respect for Wade. If that turns out to be the case he should have resigned and Smart should have gone elsewhere.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24272 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:32 pm to
Yes they have a tape discussing payment but only released the part of the tape where you have to infer that conclusion... ffs
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:39 pm to
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The FBI did not leak the tapes who ever did it broke the law.



Sorry , but no, the judge in Dawkin's trial did not allow the tape to be entered into evidence, he did allow Dawkins lawyer to read a transcript of the tape in court, that made it public record.

"A transcript of Wade’s conversation with Dawkins was read in court but not allowed into evidence by Judge Lewis A. Kaplan on grounds of relevance."
LINK


This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 10:41 pm
Posted by JR Hamilsbach
Member since Oct 2010
797 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:43 pm to
Can Wade do anything legally to counterpunch? I’m not a lawyer so I’m clueless, but if he’s an innocent man, seems like he’d have a right to clear his name and sue for damages against the source of the leak and/or LSU/NCAA for repercussions suffered from the leak if he is in fact innocent.
Posted by Nohelp
Member since Mar 2019
15 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:56 am to
If the current transcript of the FBI wiretap recordings is not enough proof that Wade is a cheater then there will never be sufficient evidence of any kind to convince you he is a cheater.
But it is only LSU fans that are bias blind to what everyone else in the nation can see clearly. Step away for a second and ask an unbias person what their take is on this.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24272 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:05 am to
So you think general opinion in the absence of bias is the same as being guilty?

What planet have I woken up on?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24951 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:08 am to
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If the current transcript of the FBI wiretap recordings is not enough proof that Wade is a cheater then there will never be sufficient evidence of any kind to convince you he is a cheater.
But it is only LSU fans that are bias blind to what everyone else in the nation can see clearly. Step away for a second and ask an unbias person what their take is on this.


Really? So wanting unconfirmed reports of something verified is now being biased and blind? Wanting actual evidence of wrongdoing is now totally out of line?

GTFO with that shite. You may want to make half-cocked judgments based off incomplete information, but don't get pissy when adults don't want to do the same.
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