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re: If you are looking forward at all, then you should like what you see.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:05 am to LSU Groupee
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:05 am to LSU Groupee
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Its some funny shite to see clowns who pissed and moaned the most the last ten years now complaining over people complaining about a LSU program destroyed by fricking State and beat by SBC Troy.
Yes it is funny. Losing sucks, but it has been comical seeing the excuses some of them have come up with to deflect all the blame off of Coach o.
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 8:10 am to biglego
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With a much better team around them.
you clearly dont remember our 2009 roster.
our leading rusher had 542 yards rushing and our leading rushing tds player had 4 rushing tds all year.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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i enjoyed the Florida win too but that win in no way proves O has us moving in the right direction.
We made baby steps. UF is marginally better than Troy. We beat UF. So yea, it was a step in the right direction.
I guess you'd prefer to lose to UF to validate your theory?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:25 pm to RedTigerRulz
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We made baby steps.
Oh Jesus. After the freaking bar was lowered to below ground level.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:56 pm to BK785
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That's why I don't understand why Brennan isn't getting more snaps. He can't do worse than Etling,
Well, he sure can
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:05 pm to Penrod
How can you possibly say this. Why is Brennan any less capable than the other four or five freshman quarterback's that are lighting up in the league this year?? Because they're forced into extended play time due to injury? MB is more than capable to play QB for this lsu team and if they put him in and let him play through a number of series, even through a couple of mistakes the ultimate outcome would be extremely favorable. I think if you take a look at the other quarterbacks that are playing right now as true freshmen all of them have thrown multiple INTs but at the same time they have thrown multiple touchdown passes because they are playing for extended lengths of time. Brennan's skill set is far and away better then DE's skill set. END OF STORY!!!!!
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:08 pm to BayouBengal99
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He also just blew your "he can't win on the road in the SEC" statements out the water this week and it wasn't just on the road in the SEC, it was a ranked SEC team on the road.
**Formerly ranked. UF will finish nowhere near the top 25 this season.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:11 pm to PaperTiger
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You don't think Lincoln Riley was hired to maintain Oklahoma? They just won a title.
Bob Stoops wasn't fired, you realize that don't you? The situations aren't even remotely similar.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:22 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Oh Jesus. After the freaking bar was lowered to below ground level.
I cant understand how anyone can be looking forward to top success after what we all have seen in our first six games. This program seems to have taken a massive hit since 2015-2016. The beat down loss at the hands of what appears to be a mediocre Mississippi State and the loss to a much less talented Troy screams serious future trouble ahead. Add to it the loss of recruits and eight win seasons or less look the norm.
Florida was a nice win but it will mean nothing if we lose to Auburn.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:15 pm to RB10
So? What's does that have to do with ANYTHING? Because Stoops retired and wasnt fired means Oklahoma didn't want to hire some one to maintain the success they were having? Cmon
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:17 pm to PaperTiger
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So? What's does that have to do with ANYTHING? Because Stoops retired and wasnt fired means Oklahoma didn't want to hire some one to maintain the success they were having? Cmon
You don't see the difference between firing a coach in in September and ending up with Ed Orgeron as a coach and having a coach retire in January and ending up with Lincoln Riley?
Are you fricking serious right now?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:20 pm to RB10
That's not what was being debated You can't just pull one quote from a 10 pg thread and try to decide what it means. The debate was this:
First year head coaches
Both had terrible losses
Both beat ranked teams
What's hard to understand about that? That's what I meant when I said they were the same.
Use context clues man
First year head coaches
Both had terrible losses
Both beat ranked teams
What's hard to understand about that? That's what I meant when I said they were the same.
Use context clues man
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:22 pm to PaperTiger
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Use context clues man
Use a fricking example that is actually comparable to Ed Orgeron.
It's amazing how often people pull coaches names out of their arse and think that just because they are first year head coaches their situations are comparable. It's a fricking joke.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:24 pm to RB10
It's worse than I realized. Stoops announced he was retiring in JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
How the frick are you going to use that situation to compare Riley and Orgeron's first seasons?
How the frick are you going to use that situation to compare Riley and Orgeron's first seasons?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:27 pm to RB10
So you are saying O was hired to maintain the program but Riley wasnt? Every program hires someone to maintain the same success and build off of it, regardless of why the other coach left. And to use that one example to say they arent remotely the same is lazy.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:29 pm to PaperTiger
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And to use that one example to say they arent remotely the same is lazy.
The only thing that's lazy is using a coach that was hired two months before kickoff losing a game against a conference opponent to excuse Orgeron losing to a Sun Belt team.
Give me a fricking break.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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good god the mentalgymnastics needed to make the claim you made is astounding
aren't you the one that always says lsu wasn't a great program under Saban when Miles came in?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:44 pm to RB10
I agree. That was lazy on the AD. Everyone agrees.
No one is debating that Oklahoma got in a jam and LSU had time to do a thorough coaching search. Point to me where that was argued one time. Did they name Riley head coach or interim? If he's interim then its a completely different situation.
Again, it got brought up because someone said that all the programs I listed weren't programs like LSU is today. Oklahoma is really close to that IMO. Do you think fans should go easy on Riley just because Stoops retired? It could be debated that was the worst loss in their history. Was it as bad as the Troy loss to LSU? No. But it's still bad. What about recruiting? Think that should slip?
And sorry but I think Riley should be under just as much scrutiny as anyone. They struggled against a TERRIBLE Baylor team and lost to Iowa State at home, both behind a 5th year Heisman candidate (at one time I guess).
The only point to the original post was to get people to calm down a little and know that coaches have tough first years some times and thats the nature of football. Some how in the midst of all that people interpreted it as Orgeron should stay as coach. I never said that.
No one is debating that Oklahoma got in a jam and LSU had time to do a thorough coaching search. Point to me where that was argued one time. Did they name Riley head coach or interim? If he's interim then its a completely different situation.
Again, it got brought up because someone said that all the programs I listed weren't programs like LSU is today. Oklahoma is really close to that IMO. Do you think fans should go easy on Riley just because Stoops retired? It could be debated that was the worst loss in their history. Was it as bad as the Troy loss to LSU? No. But it's still bad. What about recruiting? Think that should slip?
And sorry but I think Riley should be under just as much scrutiny as anyone. They struggled against a TERRIBLE Baylor team and lost to Iowa State at home, both behind a 5th year Heisman candidate (at one time I guess).
The only point to the original post was to get people to calm down a little and know that coaches have tough first years some times and thats the nature of football. Some how in the midst of all that people interpreted it as Orgeron should stay as coach. I never said that.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:48 pm to PaperTiger
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The only point to the original post was to get people to calm down a little and know that coaches have tough first years some times and thats the nature of football. Some how in the midst of all that people interpreted it as Orgeron should stay as coach. I never said that.
Coaches who were pressed into service two months before the season starts have more of a reason to struggle a bit. He also get a bit more leeway after a loss like that when his team doesn't have a blowout loss recorded.
Coaches who were interim for 8 games, hired right after the season and in charge of the program for over a year now do not get as much leeway. Particularly after they have a blowout loss to a conference doormat recorded.
Had you compared the MSU loss to the ISU loss you'd be a little more accurate. The loss to fricking Troy, no matter the state of the programs, does not compare to the Iowa State loss.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:51 pm to RB10
Again. (edited because you edited)
All I said was both were the worst loss in both programs history. I said Riley should be scrutinized. You are saying he shouldnt be. That's fine. But I'll argue that the Iowa State loss is pretty bad because it was a conference loss. At least Troy wasnt. That stung bad but it doesn't hurt our conference standings. You think that's a legit argument?
LSU should have done a better search. We know. Stop pretending I said differently. The debate was PROGRAM similarities. Not hiring similarities
All I said was both were the worst loss in both programs history. I said Riley should be scrutinized. You are saying he shouldnt be. That's fine. But I'll argue that the Iowa State loss is pretty bad because it was a conference loss. At least Troy wasnt. That stung bad but it doesn't hurt our conference standings. You think that's a legit argument?
LSU should have done a better search. We know. Stop pretending I said differently. The debate was PROGRAM similarities. Not hiring similarities
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 3:59 pm
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