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re: If we had to go 9-3, why did we fire Les Miles
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:30 am to LSU Groupee
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:30 am to LSU Groupee
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s talk about Smart. He takes over for a fired coach and in two years he wins the SEC. You think O is going to win the SEC next year?
Show me where you said this would happen
He went 8-5 last year so he obviously was the wrong choice for Georgia correct?
with Jimbo would a losing season at LSU be acceptable making 7 mil a year?
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:33 am
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:43 am to Topwater Trout
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Most people with a brain will say getting to the top is harder than staying on top. O
holy shite. from 2009-2013 only 4 programs in all of cfb had at least 9 wins every year. why? because maintaining a powerhouse is far harder than building one.
the above qoute from you easily reveals your cfb knowledge.
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Once on top recruiting is easier...why do you have such a hard time with logic?
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Use facts again to show me how often teams at the top are out recruited by teams that aren’t...I will wait
what? show me all these programs averaging 10 wins for 11 years.
the fact that you think being food for 3 or 4 years is harder than being good for 11 years is glorious.
Even Urban Meyer and Saban have said maintaining a football program is harder than building one.
look no further than Spurriers time at South Carolina.
he took a bad program and had 3 straight 11 win seasons but he couldnt sustain it for more than a year AND HE IS ONE OF THE BEST COACHES IN CFB HISTORY.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 12:49 am
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:45 am to Goldrush25
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o even if all Miles did was "maintain," even that is difficult to do.
only someone with bad football knowledge would say bulding an franchise/ program is harder than maintaining one.
you see multiple cfb and nfl teams have a good 3 stretch but they aren't able to maintain it for a decade.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:53 am to Topwater Trout
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He went 8-5 last year so he obviously was the wrong choice for Georgia correct?
kirby had proven he could be very successful on defense.
His resume wasnt void of any kind of success aside from dline coach.
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with Jimbo would a losing season at LSU be acceptable making 7 mil a year
jimbo has proven that the bad season is the outlier.
O has proven that his head coaching career is built upon bad seasons.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:55 am to dukke v
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:57 am to dukke v
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:01 am to dukke v
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Tell me where Miles made it to the TOP????
during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams than lsu
he has as many top 5 finishes as saban, mac and dietzel combined.
he has the best win % of any lsu ckach to have coached 25 games.
he has the best ooc win % in lsu history
he has the #1 ooc win% in sec history
he has more top 5 finishes at lsu as saban has seasons finishing ranked at lsu.
his 11 year tenure had more top 10 finishes than the previous 40 years of lsu football.
THE ABOVE STATEMENTS ARE NOT OPINIONS.
THEY ARE FACTS AND IN NO WAY DEFENDING MILES
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:05 am to Topwater Trout
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If Miles is so elite how did his teams finish unranked almost 20% of the time?
if saban is so elite why did he finished unranked in 40 % of his tenure?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:10 am to Topwater Trout
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think almost any coach could win with the talent LSU has had...so far my opinion has been proven to be correct.
losing 2 2 vastly inferior teams and not being a threat against bama is just like the seasons you bashed miles for having.
and you have repeatedly said that the only thing holding lsu back from winning titles was miles so no your opinion hasnt been proven.
you think miles benefitted from saban yet you dont say O benefitted from the 42 4 & 5 star player left by miles.
just another example of you being a hypocrite
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:13 am to texastigerr
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es. Les was held in such esteem by other programs that Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss. State, UCF, Texas A&M, Nebraska, SMU, Baylor last year, Tennessee, Florida, Oregon State, Texas last year, Houston last year, UCLA all offered him a job. Oh wait.
the funny part of posts like these is that the poster doesnt even realize he is actually shitting all over O too.
For 29 of his 33 year career no ad has thought enough of his coaching to give him a coordinators job let alone a HC job.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:15 am to Topwater Trout
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 2:14 am to Rickdaddy4188
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look no further than Spurriers time at South Carolina.
he took a bad program and had 3 straight 11 win seasons but he couldnt sustain it for more than a year AND HE IS ONE OF THE BEST COACHES IN CFB HISTORY.
Why are you ignoring his first 6 years with no less than 5 losses each year? Is it bc that would be the building process? You just made my point
and spurrier never truly got to the top since he never won sec tile at USCPosted on 12/27/17 at 2:19 am to Topwater Trout
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Why are you ignoring his first 6 years with no less than 5 losses each year? Is it bc that would be the building process? You just made my point and spurrier never truly got to the top since he never won sec tile at USC
using your logic no blueblood would ever have a down era. no established nfl champ would ever have a down year.
why did Florida fall apart aftwr suprrier? why did Florida fall apart after Meyer?
no one with an elementary knowledge of football would claim building a franchise or program is harder than maintaining one.
youre also not taking into account the level of south carolina football prior to Spurrier.
i cant believe im actually having to explain tbat its much harder to average 10 wins over a decade than winning 13 games once.
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College football is forever evolving and changing. There are ebbs and tides (no pun intended since we know there is only ONE Tide) to schemes, programs, rosters, and coaches. Saban, however, has found a way to buck the trend that so many others have fallen prey to, which is the trend of college football coaches having early success and then fading away.
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It is not just the young up-and-comers who suffer from this predicament. Since the beginning of this century, there have only been only two coaches who have won a National Championship after his fourth season at a school.
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As you can see, most of these coaches have had difficulty getting their second championships, and in many cases they burn out, drop out, or get dumped.
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The numbers and the accomplishments both on the field and off are staggering, especially for an era in which such sustained success was thought to be impossible. Dynasty was no longer a sufficient description.
educate yourself instead of regurgitating bull shite to try and shite on miles
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 3:00 am
Posted on 12/27/17 at 4:25 am to RedTigerRulz
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He stated O is 10-4 in the SEC...Miles was like 15-11.....
In o's interim season, the SEC teams he beat were a combined 11-21 during the regular season. That's a winning percentage of .344.
This season, the SEC teams he beat were a combined 18-30 during the regular season. That's a winning percentage of .375.
In 2015, Miles beat teams that combined for a 18-22 regular season record, for a winning percentage of .450.
In 2014, the teams he beat went 14-18, for a winning percentage of .438.
2013 the teams he beat were a combined 17-23 for a winning percentage of 425.
2012 the teams he beat were 21-27 during the regular season for a winning percentage of .438.
Miles had his problems his last few seasons at LSU, but o has been fortunate to have been able to coach against possibly the weakest SEC slate in LSU history. Since assuming the head coaching position (interim and actual head coaching duties) the SEC combined record for teams that he has beaten is 29-51. that's a .361 winning percentage.
Of course I know none of this is going to matter to any of you guys. But that's how the numbers work out.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:33 am to astonvilla
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Miles played Alabama tougher
How?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
Hey dumbass quit comparing the NFL and college football. In one you recruit who you want and players get a choice who they play for...most great players choose between the best programs...ever hear the phrase the rich get richer? How many 5 stars choose Georgia Tech over Georgia?
Please show me the facts that the best recruits don’t go to the most successful programs.
You said Spurrier was one of the best coaches in CFB history...he never reached the top with USC...not winning championships means you aren’t at the top. You also need to learn what building a program is it isn’t winning 13 games 1 year and then going 8-5 the next year...it’s changing the culture and perception of the team and making them relevant.
Please show me the facts that the best recruits don’t go to the most successful programs.
You said Spurrier was one of the best coaches in CFB history...he never reached the top with USC...not winning championships means you aren’t at the top. You also need to learn what building a program is it isn’t winning 13 games 1 year and then going 8-5 the next year...it’s changing the culture and perception of the team and making them relevant.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:45 am to astonvilla
Because we didn't want to go 7-5 or worse. Miles was trending downward and he left us in shite. He's gone...get over it! 
Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:51 am to earl keese
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In 2014, the teams he beat went 14-18, for a winning percentage of .438.
We went 4-4 in the sec...had we beaten 4-4 Aub and 2-6 Ark we finish 6-2 in the SEC and the teams we beat would’ve been 18-30 or a .375 win percentage.
Only 1 year did you compare a miles team with 6 sec wins vs Os team with 6 sec wins the other 2 had 5 sec wins. Had we beaten ole miss in 2013 the sec wins would’ve been 19-29...you see the more wins the worse the opp win percentage is...usually. Y’all can shite on 6 win sec seasons all you want by talking about the strength of the sec but winning 6 or more only happened with Miles a little over 50% of his career.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:10 am to Topwater Trout
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more competing in 2017 than 2015
total yards does not mean shite.
LSU went down 14-0 almost immediately this year and bama cruised to a win without ever really breaking a sweat. its like some of you forget bama kneeled out the last possession. if bama scores there and lsu loses by 21, NO ONE is making these talking points about lsu playing bama close.
2015 was 13-10 at halftime only because bama kicker made a 55 yarder at the whistle, then Harris threw probably the only INT worse than the Wisconsin one.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:51 am to la_birdman
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he has done well
For the season, he hasn't done anything that hasn't been done for the past five years. I'm not saying its a bad year, just the same as many seasons before it and it was done playing a much easier schedule than we played in those past seasons.
And for the record, nothing that includes a historic Mississippi State defeat and a shite in the bed Troy loss meets my idea of have done well.
The season, on the whole, was ok. I'm not calling for O's head, but the idea this season was any different than the five or six before it doesn't fly with me and I'm not going to give O some kind of special pat on the back because he able to recover form a shitty start he coached the team into.
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