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re: If Tito Horford and Nikita Wilson are on that 1986 Final Four team, do we win the title?

Posted on 6/24/24 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Who gives a shite. 38 years ago

Those that lived it do so there’s that. It is a great story on overcoming adversity.
Posted by PANTHER
Bunkie
Member since Oct 2004
2393 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:15 pm to
I just met Anthony at Paragon Casino. He said he had been here since 1994. Very nice guy. Talked LSU basketball for a few minutes
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:20 pm to
Classic Dale Brown. No ability to lead from the front.
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8031 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:30 pm to
Is Dale still the coach? If so no.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29620 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Classic Dale Brown. No ability to lead from the front.

He led with the briefcase man. That is without question. There were definitely bank deposits for summer “jobs”…
Posted by entmd2002
Lufkin, TX
Member since Dec 2010
386 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:06 pm to
Agree, Nikita was incredibly talented More so than anybody knew.
Posted by Dwainwright
Member since Jun 2017
758 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:36 pm to
I was there. Jose took a very ill advised shot with the game tied and then he proceeded to foul after the missed shot. Georgetown made both FTs. LSU had one last shot to tie and Derrick Taylor missed a FT line jumper at the buzzer. After the game Dale told me - we are gonna be ok. Don't worry about us. We are gonna make it back and get thru this (chicken pox).
Posted by cgbfairhope
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since Jun 2007
248 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:40 pm to
With a 3 point line in college... we win regardless that tourney
Posted by cgbfairhope
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since Jun 2007
248 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:44 pm to
30 for 30 should be the game vs Loyola Marymount beating them at their own high paced game... both teams with Talent Galore
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21598 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:53 pm to
That was a few years later, but man, LSU basketball from 1985-1991 was absolutely glorious. You can go back to 1981 too, but then there were 4 pretty lean seasons. But from the beginning of the 85-86 season until Shaq left it was such a drama filled roller coaster of emotion.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30631 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:30 pm to
Yes
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29620 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:53 pm to
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You can go back to 1981 too, but then there were 4 pretty lean seasons.

The 79-80 team is the best to ever lace them up if Rudy doesn’t get hurt.
78-79 could have been equally good.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4804 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:56 pm to
Nah, because LSU would’ve been a VERY high seed and expected to advance. That’s where Dale Brown would’ve failed miserably.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88842 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 11:02 pm to
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One question I've never seen anyone ask is "does the 1987 team with the title if John Williams hadn't left for the NBA after his sophomore year?"


YES

we still shoulda made final 4 without him. we choked away a 12 point lead to indy. nikita was great. with john we hold the lead and win.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30631 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 11:03 pm to
77-78 is the best LSU team ever to not make postseason. Solid, but young roster that year, but that team was fun to watch and the season included that incredible upset of #1 Kentucky in OT after all the Tiger starters had fouled out.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22841 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:24 am to
If Nikita was eligible, I think they could win it all. You'd have had an incredibly complementary group of players, each able to put 20 up in a given night without detracting from the others' games.
What Blanton did was heroic, but he was the weak link. Williams + Wilson would have overpowered Purvis down low.

That record was misleading, as someone else noted the chicken pox outbreak in the middle of the season. That's 2 weeks without your starters or depth.

Someone said "not if Dale Brown is coaching", but I don't think that's true in that era. He understood college basketball pre-3 pt shot, and could build winners in that game. He never adapted to the 3.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17645 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:29 am to
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You never know how a team would mesh. LSU was very good in 1985.


Yeah, the 85 team was definitely more talented than either the 86 or 87 team. In fact I think one can make an argument it was the deepest in talent of any LSU team in history, maybe not as top heavy as the Shaq/Chris/Stanley teams but definitely deeper.

Nikita, John Williams, Derrick Taylor, Anthony Wilson, Ricky Blanton, Don Redden, Jose Vargas, Oliver Brown, Dennis Brown, Zoran Jovanavich....late edit, I forgot maybe the most talented of all these, Jerry "Ice" Reynolds.

this team and the 84 team as well were very deep and talented but neither did as well as depth challenged teams with less talent in 86 and 87 did.

In fact Dale kind of revamped things overachieving with those two teams as he had really underachieved 4 straight years prior and was really starting to get a bad rep in that department - in 82 and 83 we lost at home in the first round of the NIT to UNO and Tulane then lost in embarrassing fashion in the first round as favorites in the NCAA tourney to Dayton and Navy in 84 and 85.

The two Cinderella years kinda got Dale back in good graces. He never made it past the second round of the tourney after 87....making it to the second round twice with Shaq and losing in the first round the other 4 years before closing his last four years without making the post-season.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 12:34 pm
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