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re: If LSU beats Notre Dame, O will be 32-32 as a head coach

Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:19 am to
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can recruit


based on the fact that it's looking like one of our lowest ranked classes in years?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54543 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:20 am to
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If in a few years a guy who is the HC at UF was on Mullen's staff and disrespects his bosses to the national media saying how they did not support McElwain or give him enough time, I would say YES to answer your question
my god you are some kind of stupid.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:23 am to
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What this team did after the losses to Troy and Mississippi State does not negate the losses to Troy and Mississippi State


No but the turnaround after those losses by the WHOLE team are a good sign and it could have gone the other way.

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Those are horrible losses no matter what happens after them


They weren't good. I don't know if they are really HORRIBLE. Was Stanford (a team ranked ahead of LSU) losing to San Diego State horrible? Don't ever hear anyone knocking Stanford for that loss. Hell, Clemson lost to a team with a losing record (a team LSU beat) and they are still the #1 ranked team in the country.

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And we are ranked 17th right now. We have no more of a "chance to finish in the top 10" this year than we did several times over the last 5 years


Showing off your college football brilliance again I see.

Since you don't realize it, in case you keep checking the poll that has LSU as 17, don't freak out when it doesn't ever change. That poll has ended for the year/season. LSU is 14th in the coaches poll and has a chance to finish in the top 10. So yeah, LSU HAS "more of a "chance to finish in the top 10" this year than we did several times over the last 5 years".



Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:25 am to
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based on the fact that it's looking like one of our lowest ranked classes in years


Fair, but he did keep last year’s class together and has had a reputation throughout his career as a great recruiter.

If he has a couple classes in a row not up to par, then yes it is big problem. But, as much as I disliked his hire, I’ll give credit where he has earned it. Hell, he IS the reason Arden Keybcame to LSU.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:25 am to
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They weren't good. I don't know if they are really HORRIBLE. Was Stanford (a team ranked ahead of LSU) losing to San Diego State horrible?

Yeah. It was.
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Don't ever hear anyone knocking Stanford for that loss.

This isn't a Stanford board, you fricking dolt.
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Clemson lost to a team with a losing record (a team LSU beat) and they are still the #1 ranked team in the country.

And that was a terrible loss too. You know they didn't lose any other games, right?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:25 am to
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2016: 6-2 as LSU interim coach

Wouldn't this be 7-2 with the bowl win?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54543 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:25 am to
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They weren't good. I don't know if they are really HORRIBLE.
losing to troy is fricking horrible. I love you spin though
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:26 am to
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I didn't really care about his time at ole miss.

Neither should any other Lsu fan.
It's irrelevant.


His time at Ole Miss was crucial for him because he basically did everything wrong except recruiting. Now he can look back and see all the mistakes he made and not repeat them. He is a better coach now because of his past failures.

Am I doing this right? #SpinZone
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:27 am to
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Wouldn't this be 7-2 with the bowl win?


Think he already had the Interim tag removed by the bowl.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:29 am to
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His time at Ole Miss was crucial for him because he basically did everything wrong except recruiting. Now he can look back and see all the mistakes he made and not repeat them. He is a better coach now because of his past failures.


He's already repeated mistakes, most specifically micromanaging coaches on issues in which he has no expertise.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107362 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:29 am to
His past record doesn't matter. It's what he does going forward. Some posters will always dislike O no matter what. And some posters are wanting him to fail just so they can say "I told you so"....Must be miserable for some of these m'fers to live their lives as an LSU football fan.



Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27765 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:29 am to
It was 6-2 including the bowl.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54543 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:31 am to
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He's already repeated mistakes, most specifically micromanaging coaches on issues in which he has no expertise.
yep and all it did was cause one of the most embarrassing loses in program history.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:32 am to
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It's a sad fricking day when a lsu fan will prop ole miss for sake of slamming ( an LSU) coach.
Pathetic.



Well, he can be a sad and pathetic poster..... It fits.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107362 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:34 am to
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yep and all it did was cause one of the most embarrassing loses in program history.



Didn't Saban lose to ULM in his 1st season at Bama? Seems he recovered pretty well from that embarrassment.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:34 am to
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No but the turnaround after those losses by the WHOLE team are a good sign and it could have gone the other way.


Sure, and I've given Orgeron and the team credit for fighting through the adversity. It doesn't change the fact that those are bad losses.

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They weren't good. I don't know if they are really HORRIBLE. Was Stanford (a team ranked ahead of LSU) losing to San Diego State horrible? Don't ever hear anyone knocking Stanford for that loss. Hell, Clemson lost to a team with a losing record (a team LSU beat) and they are still the #1 ranked team in the country.



They were horrible. Both losses were historically bad. Why would anyone give a shite about Stanford losing to San Diego State? And, if LSU has only lost the Troy game we would be in the playoffs right now, just like Clemson is.

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Showing off your college football brilliance again I see.

Since you don't realize it, in case you keep checking the poll that has LSU as 17, don't freak out when it doesn't ever change. That poll has ended for the year/season. LSU is 14th in the coaches poll and has a chance to finish in the top 10. So yeah, LSU HAS "more of a "chance to finish in the top 10" this year than we did several times over the last 5 years".


We were ranked 14th going into the bowl game in 2013 and 9th going into the bowl game in 2012, so your statement is incorrect.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54543 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:36 am to
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Didn't Saban lose to ULM in his 1st season at Bama
exactly the same. saban inherited a program in the toilet. But yes orgeron is just like saban I tell you.
Posted by GeologyGrad88
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2015
1027 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:36 am to
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Why do we have to settle for someone that has to prove himself, as opposed to someone that's demonstrated excellence already? We should be above that as a program.


Goldrush - I don't disagree with you, but O is here and it seems like everyone is blaming him for taking the job. Sure O does not have the pedigree we all wanted, but at the same time, I am still trying to remain cautiously optimistic. The ultimate blame lies at the feet of the head of Incompetence Inc. and that is Alleva.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:37 am to
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Some posters will always dislike O no matter what. And some posters are wanting him to fail just so they can say "I told you so"....Must be miserable for some of these m'fers to live their lives as an LSU football fan.


And some posters will always like Orgeron are willing to lower expectations for him in spite of the program.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:38 am to
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Didn't Saban lose to ULM in his 1st season at Bama? Seems he recovered pretty well from that embarrassment.


Just stop.

All you can point to with Saban is two embarrassing losses in 20+ years. Orgeron had two embarrassing losses this season. That's not a similar trajectory at all.
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