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I don’t understand the buyouts

Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:03 am
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:03 am
You didn’t do your job to the standard you were hired for. Shouldn’t there be some conditions you meet to receive the buyout rather than just existing?
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13027 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:07 am to
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Shouldn’t there be some conditions you meet to receive the buyout

Yes, there was a contract.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20012 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:08 am to
Well, Terry Bowden was being paid by Auburn for years after he moved on. Contract verbiage had LSZu by the “coin purse”.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:14 am to
Anything in the contract about performance, work ethic....I would imagine so.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15774 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:15 am to
“I just needed more time”

^ that’s why you have a buyout clause. Time is money and we don’t want to wait
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4461 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:18 am to
Google Bobby Bonilla if you want to see something about shitty contracts made.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66341 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:19 am to
What’s the point of a buyout if you allow poor performance to be an out?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:38 am to
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What’s the point of a buyout if you allow poor performance to be an out?


Not only that but poor performance is highly subjective. Where’s the line between poor and barely acceptable performance? How does talent, injuries, experience, and SOS factor in the equation? The line can’t be quantified and would be different every season.

Contacts with subjective language = lawsuits.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10432 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:39 am to
It is in the contract.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5735 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:55 am to
Lmfao!!! Holy shite! Good on him. I have never heard of this guy until you. What a screw up by the Mets. How do u let a 5mil sit and gain interest for enough time to become 29mil.

Such a crazy senario for FBI and everyone to be involved to make that contract gain money like that lol

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41858 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:59 am to
Pelini buyout was excessive and unwarranted
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2700 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:23 am to
1. Contracts should be written as such to have certain performance levels reached for certain pay outs. As long as the coordinators meet expectations things are good. If they are exceeded there are bonuses, if the aren't met... well, there you go.

2. The HC that selects his assistants and coordinators, therefore the HC should be partially financially responsible. Just like when a HC gets bonuses based on the success of his coordinators when he wins the Div / Conf. / Bowl game / NC......He should be on the hook for the failure and ultimate firings.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:25 am to
Bottom 5 in the nation is pretty low.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:26 am to
Bobby Bonilla day is hilarious. Hell of a contract.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4617 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Pelini buyout was excessive and unwarranted


Bases on what? The two parties mentioned in the contract both agreed to it.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5303 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:27 am to
If you ever put those things in a contract, no coach would ever want to come to your school.
Posted by Eyebesmacinhose
Enterprise, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2017
1724 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I don’t understand the buyouts


We can tell you, but we can’t understand it for you.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:35 am to
It is contract work. Anybody, not just coaches, that works under contract will be paid the full amount of the contract unless they are terminated with cause or there is a buyout clause in the contract. Not every contract has a buyout clause and they are for less than what the remaining amount is on the contract.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:38 am to
quote:

1. Contracts should be written as such to have certain performance levels reached for certain pay outs. As long as the coordinators meet expectations things are good. If they are exceeded there are bonuses, if the aren't met... well, there you go.

2. The HC that selects his assistants / coordinators should be partially financially responsible. Just like when a HC gets bonuses based on the success of his coordinators when he wins the Div / Conf. / Bowl game / NC......He should be on the hook for the failure and ultimate firings.


No agent of any coach worth a flip would agree to any of this. Those bonuses are all stated in the contract. They wouldn’t sign the contract if it forced them to pay for the buyouts of failed coaches.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12219 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:40 am to
Any experienced lawyer or coach knows that the success of the players coached by the coach/ client can be impacted by a lot of things beyond the control of the coach.
Here there was new coach, installing a new defense (4/3) without a full contingent of his own players. And there is COVID.
Coaches will all tell you they only need more time .
And any coordinator or arse't coach knows that his success can be hampered by the interference of a HC, by locker room issues caused by others (including the HC) or by the neglect of a HC (who, for example, might not have his head fully in the game b/c of a mid-life crisis).
Nobody is going to agree to forfeit a buyout in their contract b/c of these and other risks beyond the coach's control.
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