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re: How would you stop LSU offense?

Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Ipissexcellence
Member since Dec 2018
324 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:52 am to
Build that wall
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:00 am to
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You can’t. The only chance you have is to put pressure on burrow, but our oline is legit and burrow can scramble with the best of them. No chance


That's the wrong thing to do. As under pressure is when Burrow is at his most dangerous because of LSU's scramble drills. As that is when Jamar Chase makes a lot of his catches.

I'd recommend trying to contain him instead by rushing three defenders, as opposed to trying to pressure him and then drop an extra defender in pass defense to attempt to keep everything in front of the defense, to again attempt to contain the passing attack.

As you are right, it's unstoppable. So don't try to stop it. Try to contain it and slow it down as much as possible instead.
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:02 am to
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Disable the air conditioning in the locker room.



Last time they tried that, Burrow passed for 479 yards cause it just pissed him off. Then he rubbed it in by waving to the crowd.
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:04 am to
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I'd say run them over with a tank


Yeah, if you ran over him with a tank, he'd pop right back up and then pass for 500 yards on you cause you pissed him off.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
7394 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:10 am to
You would have to play man and win your one on ones which is very hard to do with such a great receiving core we have. No college team has a three cornerbacks that can guard Chase, Jefferson and Marshall so it’s almost impossible. You also would have to blitz to get pressure on burrow. If you do decide to blitz you better get to him because he will make you pay if you don’t. Not to mention when you have a running back like CEH who can pick up blitzes, break tackles, catch balls out of the backfield, etc. your almost virtually impossible to stop. So what I’m getting at is an offense like this can only stop themselves with silly mistakes like turnovers. There is no defense in college football that can stop this offense if we are hitting on all cylinders. We can only beat ourselves.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17710 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:18 am to
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I'd recommend trying to contain him instead by rushing three defenders, as opposed to trying to pressure him and then drop an extra defender in pass defense to attempt to keep everything in front of the defense, to again attempt to contain the passing attack.


How would you stop CEH then?

You'd have to play man in the secondary, get pressure with 4 linemen, and have quick defensive ends to prevent Burrow from scrambling outside the pocket. A LB would have to be responsible for CEH.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22767 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:21 am to
Flu?
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10354 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:23 am to
Put 22 men on the field.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:24 am to
Pick your poison. Got to have the athletes first. No body really matches up well with our receivers.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39039 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:31 am to
Same way A&M tried. They got pressure up the middle with blitzes, if necessary. They played a zone behind it, and their short zone guys committed early to Joe as soon as he started moving. This was the best strategy against Joe all year. Then I would mix in the corner blitz leaving the safety deep to confuse Joe on RPO, like Bama did.

Neither of these actually worked well enough, because Joe defeated A&M’s strategy with quick thinking, and Clyde defeated the corner blitz with his spin moves. No defense is going to beat these guys if they continue to play this well, but those are the best strategies I’ve seen. If Georgia starts falling behind they should try some heavy blitz packages on every play - just send seven and pray.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72358 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:37 am to
If uga blitzes like that we will screen them
To death. We’ve been sitting on rb screens since GSU. We ran them good that game. It is basically pick your poison. CEH runs hot routes into vacated zones where the blitz came from. Bring guys in the box we will go horizontal stretch throws. Come up on outside we will go over the top. Sit back in cover 2 we will run all day and nickel and dime underneath.
Posted by Lestat de Lioncourt
Member since Nov 2019
310 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:50 am to
Double team both main receivers, put a spy on Joe but disguise it. Force him to think he has an easy run and then blow him up. Any formations that are obviously going to be CEH running the ball, I would audible into a 3-4, blitz the OLB on the strong side, spy one of the middles, and blitz a safety.

When Joe lines up in shotgun 3 to 5 wide I would go to a 3-2-6 (basically a 3-1-7) but pull the 3rd safety right up with the MLB, the 3rd safety is going to play the ball in a hovering style zone.I would clog up the middle and the edges with zone thus taking away the swing, the quick out hitch, nothing underneath, and nothing deep. Both outer corners would be in man and have both safeties sitting deep and have both nickel corners in a deep range zone. Basically if Joe is going to pass he’s going to have to lob some perfect balls midfield or take off for a qb run to either the right or left edge, if he thinks he can beat my 3rd safety and MLB who’s in a shallow zone, not too mention my defensive ends are going to be flushing Joe out. Joe loves to throw the high over the right shoulder before the receiver even turns around play. It’s very risky for several reasons and usually it’s a genius or a bad move. If you can disguise some double teams just enough to cheat over you could pick Joe off. He won’t be able to hit that pass in the nfl, those corners will break off and get under and pick him off.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39039 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:07 am to
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You have to play man the entire game number 1

Not an option, unless you’re providing deep help on Chase at the very least. There is not a DB in college who can guard Chase. Bama tried it with #7, who is supposedly a first round talent...no dice.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57457 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:11 am to
The only way to slow down LSU is by getting pressure from all 4 DL spots. Even if the OT’s have gotten beat, the C and OG’s and have held the middle enough for Burrow to step up into the pocket and make throws downfield.

Auburn did a pretty good job at getting pressure and having the coverage setup on the back end to stop some of the short throws.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:13 am to
Dominant front 7. Auburn had the closest blueprint
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34511 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:35 am to
Tell them that the game is a day later than it was supposed to be played.

They can't effin stop it.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36129 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:43 am to
Blitz a corner, LB spy CEH, stop the quick slant.

And you have to do all that every play
Posted by bignic26
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2013
823 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:54 am to
We've seen teams bring pressure, doesn't work.

We've seen teams drop 8 into coverage, doesn't work.

LSU had defensive coordinators creating new defenses to try to stop them but they couldn't. I have never seen an offense that literally could not be stopped in the SEC. We've seen some great offenses over the years but nothing like this. They were putting up Big 12 numbers against SEC talent. Unreal.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16342 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:42 am to
Apart from having basically experienced NFL talent at all 11 positions it's gonna be really difficult across 4 qtrs. We're doing a really good job of taking what they're giving.

Ex: Auburn was lining up with 3 DL, 1LB, and 7 DBs (as least that's what I heard). So we ran CEH 4X and TD!

For just fun, I would love to see this O vs the '11 D.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27432 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:49 am to
I pull two non-schloroship players from the scout team. First guy rushes in blind and takes Burrow out of the game. Second guy comes in blind and takes Brennen out of the game on the next play. We can then load the box and shut down the run game with less worrying about the pass.
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