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re: Here is what I learned about JL today

Posted on 3/11/09 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/11/09 at 9:49 am to
quote:

The other QB's arms are going to have to fall off for JL to start.
The Bama game was terrible luck.


Fixed it for you.

How many starting QBs in the NFL have gotten an interception returned for a TD and are now in the Hall of Fame?

Nobody on the team has a better arm than J.L. Wether he can overcome being thrown to the wolves last year, only time will tell.

News Bulletin: All of our other QBs are even more inexperienced.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/11/09 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Nobody on the team has a better arm than J.L.


is this not even debatable now?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37000 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 10:17 am to
very good post.

quote:

We've seen JJ play, so if JL is the starter, it's because he's improved, not because he's the only option that we have (like last year).


i wish more posters could see this and understand it.

especially the part about JL being our only option at the time.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30190 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 10:19 am to
I know I'm chiming in late and probably skimmed over a couple of posts, but when I read....

quote:

JL's main problems from last yr stemmed from lack of film study, which is a main area that he is focusing on.


...I didn't automatically assume that Lee's "lack of film study" was entirely due to his own negligence.

Seems to me it's quite possible that the coaching staff didn't allot the amount of time necessary... The RP to Hatch to JL transition and the resulting playbook amendments may have eaten away at time ordinarily used for fine tuning against an opponent. Of course JJ looked great against Georgia Tech - he had a month to prepare for a single opponent.

I think that all of this year's potential QBs will be benefiting from increased time in the film room.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12722 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 10:28 am to
quote:

correct, but in this certain instance, I was only talking about Interceptions thrown by the QB, as I was comparing the QB play of Jarrett Lee
Wow. In a long history of stupid posts on this subject, this is possibly a new high of stupid for you, Doc. 4 INTs is impossible to overcome (which you asserted to begin with), but a team overcoming 5 turnovers is not a relevant response because 4 INTs is somehow harder to overcome than 5 turnovers?

I guess coming from the guy who still insists that Jarrett Lee gave up all 52 points to Georgia because his INTs are the sole cause of Georgia driving for 5 60+ yard touchdown drives, this isn't all that unforseeable.

4 INTs is harder to overcome than 5 turnovers; Doc logic in full action.

To clarify, you are an idiot because a team overcoming 5 turnovers to win is harder than a team overcoming 4 INTs to win. I was going to leave this last paragraph out, but just before I hit "submit" I realized that if I did you would read this whole post and still not have a clue why the rest of the world was laughing at you.

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/11/09 at 10:32 am to
I simply stated, "when was the last time a QB threw 4 INT's and his team still won the game"

a turnover is a turnover. I understand that.

I just made that statement, and hotrod mentioned LSU/UF 2005, but jamarcus didn't throw 4 INT's in that game.

I know LSU had 5 turnovers combined, but JR did not throw 4 INT's.

how is that hard to understand?

is it not correct?
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12722 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I simply stated, "when was the last time a QB threw 4 INT's and his team still won the game"
No, you didn't. You asserted that the 4 INTs by Lee were the reason we lost the Bama game, because the team could not overcome 4 INTs. Then you ignore the reference to the Florida game where we overcame 5 turnovers, and still insist your point was right. Thus, you insist that 4 INTs are harder to overcome than 5 turnovers.

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/11/09 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

No, you didn't.


you are like a ilttle child.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12722 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

you are like a ilttle child
Inasmuch as even a little child could see that your post contained more than just that question, and thus did not "simply" ask it, you are correct. Inasmuch as even a moderately literate little child can see that your suggestion that a team could not win with 4 turnovers is refuted by reference to a game where the winning team committed 5 turnovers, you are also correct.

Of course, you could always try bullshitting your way out of it by claiming that you never suggested that Jarrett Lee's 4 INTs were responsible for the loss to Alabama because every other part of the team played well enough to win but a team is simply unable to overcome 4 INTs by its QB.

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/11/09 at 1:26 pm to
when was the last time a QB threw 4 INTERCEPTIONS and his team still won the game?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30190 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

when was the last time a QB threw 4 INTERCEPTIONS and his team still won the game?



Tony Romo against the Bills.
Posted by Tiger Ted
Member since Mar 2009
864 posts
Posted on 3/11/09 at 3:43 pm to
I hope the best for JL
Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
911 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 8:34 am to
Here is what i learned from actually doing research, instead of just stating my opinion. Last year, JL accounted for 76 points for the other team. And just to clarify what i meant by 76 points, i mean his turnovers either 1. getting returned for touchdowns, or 2. the ensuing possession from his turnover. 76 points! I wish someone would tell me of a time when another quarterback accounted for this many points and was allowed to play the next year. The problem with some posts not only on this board but on other boards is that while you have a good argument about why we shouldn't just give the starting job to JJ, i have yet to hear a good argument about why we should give the job to JT. There is none. So he completed some passes, so did JJ. So he played against good competition, so did JJ, even if you don't think arkansas is good, they are still in the SEC which means they have some athletes. And the comment that JJ had a month to prepare for the GTech game is a good argument. But he only had a week to prepare for Arkansas and he had about 10 seconds to prepare for Ole miss, and he only threw 1 interception. which accounted for 0 points. If someone has a good reason why JT should be the starter, please state it, if not shut up!
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/12/09 at 8:38 am to


Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/12/09 at 9:22 am to
well, if the QB doesn't throw the INT, the offense won't have to tackle, now will they?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/12/09 at 9:30 am to
i'm just giving you cause and effect old man.

the offense shouldn't be recruited on how well they tackle running the other way.
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1470 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 10:29 am to
Freedom of speech. Good thing we have it so everyone can give their opinion. We can argue all day about the QB spot, but in reality:

No one here, on the staff or on the team knows at all who will start, who will be the QB as the season progresses, or who will play good, bad or average. It won’t be until after this season is over that those questions will be answered. And you can “BOOK THAT”.
Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
911 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:15 pm to
i'm not blaming just lee for last season, even though i did do a good job of making it seem like i was. I know our defense sucked last year, good case is the arkansas game when we for sure played better but our defense continually let them back in the game, but what i am saying is that the turnovers that were caused by Lee were momentum killers for us and huge momentum builders for the other team. Look at our team from the year before, how were we able to win so many close games? Turnovers! So it would just seem to me that if we have the chance to play someone that came in just like lee did with little playing time and had fewer turnovers then we should play him. If he doesn't do well, we should let someone else play. But i don't want to see what we saw last year
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8177 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Why? You really dont like what you have seen from JJ more than JL?


Stopped reading at this post, so not sure what's been said in the pages between, but...

I don't like JJ OR JL more than the other, nor either of them MORE than RS. I'd be one happy Momma if they all saw the field this year, at the Wiz's command, and they all played lights out!!
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

and they all played lights out!!


that would be great.

I want all the players to succeed too.

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