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re: Greg Doyell's latest column on Jeremy Hill
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:49 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:49 am to wildtigercat93
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He does know. He just doesnt feel the need to tell the media and why should he?
Exactly. He just doesn't talk about it. He never even officially said Mathieu and Ware were suspended for the Auburn game in 2011, but everyone knew what happened.
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:49 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Funny thing is, wasn't JFF in a bar fight last summer? How many games was he suspended again??
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:49 am to Tiger Voodoo
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quote:He does know. He just doesnt feel the need to tell the media and why should he? To avoid the backlash and second guessing?
both of which the public has and will continue to do. Why should he fricking care?
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:50 am to Tiger Voodoo
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To avoid the backlash and second guessing?
WHY WOULD HE CARE??
Jackasses can write this shite all day, it wont effect les miles or LSU in the least.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:51 am to CharlesLSU
It is sad really. We call these guys kids until they do something wrong. Then we throw them under the bus because they are a man and should have known better.
People make poor choices. I agree with Miles. You have to look at the whole person. Lapses in judgment is not something that deserves the death penalty.
People make poor choices. I agree with Miles. You have to look at the whole person. Lapses in judgment is not something that deserves the death penalty.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:51 am to CptBengal
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Can you link me a law where I cant say it?
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire is a Supreme Court case from 1942 which introduced the "fighting words" doctrine. Roughly stated, words whose very utterance is intended to breach the peace or incite violence are not Constitutionally protected. Calling someone the N-word certainly falls into this category, and thus, is not Constitutionally protected speech.
You don't have the right to incite violence and then hide behind the First Amendment.
At common law, assault is defined as an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim. Words alone are not enough, but words plus some action (such as a raised fist) is enough to constitute criminal assault.
I'm not familiar with Louisiana's criminal code, but I doubt it is too different from the national standard, and it certainly will not violate a Supreme Court decision.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:52 am to Baloo
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:52 am to CharlesLSU
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both of which the public has and will continue to do. Why should he fricking care?
I hear ya. Not saying he should have, but it could have helped.
I agree Miles doesn't give backlash much weight, nor should he, but I do think announcing his decision would have made things quieter on the rant today.
So in that case, thanks Coach
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:53 am to Bmath
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You have to look at the whole person. Lapses in judgment is not something that deserves the death penalty.
I agree
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:54 am to Baloo
Baloo with the BOOM!
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:54 am to LSUROXS
quote:How do you know he didn't and why would it be important for you to know, if he did?
Where's the apology to the kid he punched in the face.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:54 am to Bmath
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People make poor choices.
Yep. There are idiots on this board that are claiming it's only a matter of time before a guy with two misdemeanors in 26 months screws up again and LSU has to deal with it again.
If the pattern holds, and Hill gets another misdemeanor two years from now, it won't be LSU dealing with it.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:55 am to ProjectP2294
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Who gives a shite what Greggggg Doyell and Stewart Mandel think? They are hack writers that most people haven't even heard of.
Well they do have pretty large stages to spew their ignorance to others that don't know the facts like we do.
Those people around the country accept these hit pieces as fact and then spread them as well.
So pretending that what they write is irrelevant isn't true.
These fricks make a living catering to the LCD and providing the message that will then be spread across the country by the LCD like a virus.
It's troubling on a universal level far above and beyond sports, as the rest of the media operates the exact same way.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:57 am to Tiger Voodoo
cptbengal is like rex, once he started getting owned he disappears
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:57 am to CptBengal
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quote: And while we knew this day was coming, we didn't know it would be quite like this. With Les Miles unable to muster the guts to say, "I did this." Miles ducked behind his players, using them as a human shield,
I don't underdtand this. To me it sounded like Miles would not allow Jeremy to come back until the team oked it. Which is good. It also sayd to me that miles made the decision that he would allow him back unless the te said other wise.
That is respectible to me because it shows that Miles would rather do waht is best for his team and not what some joe blow on a message board wants. He has done this inthe past with Jefferson and if I remember right didnt this also take place with Mathieu ware and simon?
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:57 am to Tiger Voodoo
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So pretending that what they write is irrelevant isn't true.
No, its pretty true.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:58 am to Tiger Voodoo
I agree with most of what Voodoo has said in this thread, but I'd like to add this: when Miles suspended his star QB, not only did he not get universal plaudits, he had people calling for his job because his team didn't win enough. We can talk about sending a message or some such nonsense, but his previous messages have been ignored by many of the same people condemning him, and many fans did not look at 2008 and say, "yeah we only won 8 games, but Miles showed good moral character by suspending our starting QB and I'm proud of that example, so I'll give him a pass for the onfield performance, because its the off field morals that really count."
Show me that person, and he can talk about Hill until he's blue in the face.
Show me that person, and he can talk about Hill until he's blue in the face.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:59 am to Tiger Voodoo
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These fricks make a living catering to the LCD and providing the message that will then be spread across the country by the LCD like a virus.
It's troubling on a universal level far above and beyond sports, as the rest of the media operates the exact same way
I agree. Which is why I think people shouldn't base their decisions on what will please these idiots.
I haven't seen Bruce Feldman or Andy Staples make excessive comments about the Hill situation (if they've commented at all). And they're on the same platforms as Doyell and Mandel. Except that people actually respect Feldman and Staples.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:59 am to TheDoc
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quote: Funny thing is, wasn't JFF in a bar fight last summer? How many games was he suspended again??
He also tried to use a fake ID, which got RP booted, and still didnt even miss a practice
frick Doyell
Posted on 8/6/13 at 10:00 am to Baloo
quote:
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire is a Supreme Court case from 1942 which introduced the "fighting words" doctrine. Roughly stated, words whose very utterance is intended to breach the peace or incite violence are not Constitutionally protected. Calling someone the N-word certainly falls into this category, and thus, is not Constitutionally protected speech.
You don't have the right to incite violence and then hide behind the First Amendment.
At common law, assault is defined as an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim. Words alone are not enough, but words plus some action (such as a raised fist) is enough to constitute criminal assault.
I'm not familiar with Louisiana's criminal code, but I doubt it is too different from the national standard, and it certainly will not violate a Supreme Court decision.
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