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raveystboy
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
A student doesn't get a 2 year ban for cheating on a test in class. I totally understand he broke a rule, but like everyone else, I feel his punishment is way out to severe


GetmorewithLes
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
Might have to pull Jesse Jackson out of the bullpen and start hitting the sports talk shows about how NCAA is not just seeking to punish the kid but to ruin his career over a lapse of good judgement rather than the actual crime.

Risky strategy though, Jesse wont go back in the bullpen easily when we done.


Genestealer55
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I’m really just damned tired of the ncaa....



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lsufball19
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
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Can this be true? If this is the case, they are out to hurt this kid and LSU. What a sh!t show when they give so many passes to "other" SEC teams and players.

If you lose a year to suspension, you can’t use a redshirt. Same thing happened to Will Grier when he was suspended a year for PEDs


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lsufball19
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
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A student doesn't get a 2 year ban for cheating on a test in class. I totally understand he broke a rule, but like everyone else, I feel his punishment is way out to severe

No professional league suspends players an entire year for using PEDs either, not for a first offense


TigerLunatik
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It's pretty clear that they're trying to set a precedent and an example so that other kids don't try this in the future. From their point of view, I understand it. It just sucks it's happening to one our players.
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Lakeboy7
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file a lawsuit against the NCAA and seek injunctive relief


Do it. Get the fricking rules and the facts to a real judge, not a committee of dipshits that under any circumstances will not rule against the NCAA.
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Big EZ Tiger
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Yeah, but he tried to cheat on the test, which most would agree is worse than a mere failed test.

True, but football programs are caught cheating and put on probation. How often have you ever heard of them cancelling a football team's season for two years or even one year? A year is plenty enough. Lesson learned.


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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
Man, The NCAA has an absolute hard on for this kid. It’s absolutely shameful how disproportionate the offense and the punishment are. A bunch of freaking bureaucratic wankers .


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That is beyond unreal


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NCAA is wrong for not letting the kid use a redshirt while on suspension. That is flat out ruining a young mans future for a mistake made while he was a teenager.

He didn't even make the mistake, merely considered doing so.

Even if he had, it's not like he stole or failed a drug test, much less did anything voilent. 2 years is criminal.


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The Pirate King
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Do it. Get the fricking rules and the facts to a real judge, not a committee of dipshits that under any circumstances will not rule against the NCAA.


Apparently to file suit, all other appeal options have to be exhausted


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themunch
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
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They apparently got Fulton for tampering with a test


Which in fact he did not do.


Tmcnair96
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The attempt to cheat the test (3.3)and actually cheating the test(3.4) is two different things and that was the lawyer's argument. Because Fulton was caught trying to use a fake sample and ultimately submitted his own, it should've been a violation of rule 3.3"the attempt"(1 year suspension) instead rule 3.4(2 year suspension). Another thing the lawyer said was that because the tester used a contaminated vial when taking the second sample, that should've voided the whole drug test because it didn't follow proper protocol.


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Walker wild tiger
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If they don’t know which rule it falls under then why not split the difference with the 18 months and everybody wins NCAA makes there point and the kid continues his playing career


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TigerLunatik
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
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They apparently got Fulton for tampering with a test



Which in fact he did not do.

Pouring someone else's urine in the piss collection cup isn't tampering?


koLSU86
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That is flat out ruining a young mans future for a mistake made while he was a teenager.


I find it pretty ironic that when two Alabama players were caught with guns and drugs they were let off because someone didn't want to ruin their life. And here's Fulton missing completely out on his college football career because he was going to switch out piss for a drug test and told a lie.

It's sad what they're doing to him. There's no reason in hell he should have even been suspended a whole season. Much less being suspended for two and only having one year left to play. While Alabama has people running around with guns in the car high as frick and everyone says we don't want to ruin their life. fricking ridiculous.


themunch
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
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Pouring someone else's urine in the piss collection cup


If he did this then he gets the year punishment.


Two years is extreme especially with the limited time of college ball.
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TigerLunatik
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re: Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)
The failed test penalty and cheated test penalty can't be the same because if it was everyone would try to cheat when they knew they were in danger of testing positive.

I've suggested before a 6 month punishment foe each offense. But, honestly I'm not sure 6 months is enough for PEDs.


CP3LSU25
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We have been getting F***** since 1/9 from the sec and NCAA. Tired of this shit


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