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Fulton’s attorney on AFR (notes)

Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:33 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:33 pm
- conference call with the committee lasted an hour, deliberated about an hour, gave no reason that the suspension was upheld
-based on line of questioning, he believes the decision was made before the conference call, and reopening the case was purely procedural
- there are 3 options about what comes next
- extreme legislative relief filed by LSU through the conference (LOL, good luck with this one)
- filing for a reconsideration of the bylaw which was broken (different than appeal apparently)
- file a lawsuit against the NCAA and seek injunctive relief (he said this is a last resort and they really don’t want to do this, mostly due to the fact that it puts the school in a very awkward position)
- doesn’t think that Fulton can use a redshirt year, so he would have one year of eligibility in 2019 if everything stands as is.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
2282 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:37 pm to
Why would a lawsuit put the school in a "very awkward position"?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69213 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:37 pm to
I just don’t get what LSU ever did to deserve second class citizen treatment like this

This is shameful
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57447 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Why would a lawsuit put the school in a "very awkward position"?


Because it puts them in an adverse position against the organization that governs all of their sports.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2015
2529 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:40 pm to
Seems like we're already in an adverse position with them.
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2402 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:41 pm to
It’s not what we did, it’s what we can’t do because of the incapabilities of our administration. Talking to you Joe.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56263 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Why would a lawsuit put the school in a "very awkward position"?



I think Fulton would be suing LSU
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
22936 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:45 pm to
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extreme legislative relief filed by LSU through the conference (LOL, good luck with this one)


Denied!!!

- RTR
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:48 pm to
NCAA is wrong for not letting the kid use a redshirt while on suspension. That is flat out ruining a young mans future for a mistake made while he was a teenager.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 5:51 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:48 pm to
That doesn’t accomplish anything substantive, the objective with the recourse possibilities is to get him on the field period point blank
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3390 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

- doesn’t think that Fulton can use a redshirt year, so he would have one year of eligibility in 2019 if everything stands as is.


Can this be true? If this is the case, they are out to hurt this kid and LSU. What a sh!t show when they give so many passes to "other" SEC teams and players.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65784 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:58 pm to
Such an absurd penalty for a guy who didn’t even test positive for the test. I mean seriously.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14450 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:03 pm to
The brief part that I was listening to he was saying that this case falls under three separate bylaws. And the NCAA does not have any wording to separate the three so they can choose at will which it falls under. They apparently got Fulton for tampering with a test which is 2 years. The other two are only 1 year punishments.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26258 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

-based on line of questioning, he believes the decision was made before the conference call, and reopening the case was purely procedural

I had a feeling this was the case given the fact they made their decision immediately after the meeting ended after we thought we wouldn't know anything until that evening or possibly Friday morning.
quote:

- doesn’t think that Fulton can use a redshirt year, so he would have one year of eligibility in 2019 if everything stands as is.

What a fricking joke
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26206 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Such an absurd penalty for a guy who didn’t even test positive for the test. I mean seriously.


Yeah, but he tried to cheat on the test, which most would agree is worse than a mere failed test.

is 2 years too harsh given the circumstances? Maybe...Probably. But I know one way this could have all been avoided to begin with, and it has nothing to do with the NCAA or its bylaws and penalties.

It's rightfully difficult for some, myself included, to have a ton of sympathy for a person that attempted to cheat the system.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Why would a lawsuit put the school in a "very awkward position"?


Maybe because if the lawsuit is lost, LSU would have to forfeit games hes 0layed in? Or something along those lines?
Posted by Tiger997
Picayune, MS
Member since Jan 2006
666 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

doesn’t think that Fulton can use a redshirt year, so he would have one year of eligibility in 2019 if everything stands as is.


He should have 2 years left. Unless he goes for the draft after his junior season.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57447 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

He should have 2 years left. Unless he goes for the draft after his junior season.


He didn’t redshirt his freshman year. He played, lost 2 years, and will have 1 year left.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

Why would a lawsuit put the school in a "very awkward position"?


Because it puts them in an adverse position against the organization that governs all of their sports.


so does an employee every time he/ she disagrees with the boss.... doesn't mean you don't do it if you believe what you are saying
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

It's rightfully difficult for some, myself included, to have a ton of sympathy for a person that attempted to cheat the system.


It's a shame that this young man has to go through all the crap that he's dealing with, but at the end of the day, he did it to himself.

Oh well, hopefully it's one of life's lessons that he won't forget.
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